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Next Major Release of OS X

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buffsldr

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I am on the WWDC e-mail list and I got an e-mail today trying to get me to sign up for WWDC in May and it read as follows:


Dear Developer,

On May 6, WWDC 2002 attendees will be the first to explore the
powerful new capabilities of the next major release of Mac OS X.

Does this mean that 10.2 will be announced at the conference? Those scaling folders are too cool.
 
Sweet.

Major releases make me excited. 10.2 should be a great release.

Bring it on Apple!!! We're ready.

Matthew
 
Whoopee!

I got this same email. Here's the full text.

Dear Developer,

On May 6, WWDC 2002 attendees will be the first to explore the
powerful new capabilities of the next major release of Mac OS X.

And that's just for starters. At WWDC, you'll receive valuable
access to Apple engineers and industry experts, all eager to help
you create the world's best Mac OS X products.

Don't forget, your e-ticket includes post-conference online access
to sessions, as well as a complete WWDC 2002 Sessions DVD set.

Be sure to act now! WWDC 2002 Early Registration discounts end April
14. This is your last chance to save US $300. After April 14, the
WWDC e-ticket price increases to US $1595.

For WWDC 2002 session details and to register today, visit:
http://developer.apple.com/wwdc2002/
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Interesting. I guess we will get to seee 10.2 there. However, it will not be released there, I don't think. It'll probably be released very soon though, think MWNY.
 
Ahh! I want 10.2 ASAP! It just looks so darn cool and fast! It'll be such a leap forward! PLEEZE APPLE! I hope we have some more major updates to it, like atleast OS 9 level.
 
If it is a major release, like they're saying, I hope they don't expect us to pay for it. It will be nice to have though, and most people probably wouldn't have a problem shelling out a few dollars.
 
I'll p*ss myself if it's OSX.1.4 :p :p :p :p imagine that you pay $1500 only to see OSX.1.4... :p :p

I do hope however that it is OSX.2..... that would be kewl......:D

Tickets are abit pricey though...... Do I get a discount becuase I'm a Macuser??:p :p
 
Get ready to ante up...

Whatever it's called (10.2 or 10.5), the next upgrade to Mac OS X will be a paid upgrade. From what I've seen, the feature set doesn't look like they can justify a full $99-129 price, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it go for more than the $19.95 shipping & handling that they got for 10.1.

From what I've read, we'll see the following...

1) Improved speed (how much is anybodys guess)
2) New Finder features (Spring Loaded Folders, Thumbnails, "Open With" context menus, various tweaks to Column view's Preview)
3) Enhanced "Accessbility" options for those with disabilities
4) Enhancements to Carbon applications, that allow them to antialias their text (makes IE look much much better).

This is all I've read about so far. There seems to be a lot missing that we are all clamoring for. Most notably:
1) USB Printer Sharing
2) Finder Labels (Snax can do it - why can't Apple?)
3) Improved browsing of network volumes - especially SMB shares.
4) Improved dock options - including the ability to turn it off and revert to a pure OS 9 like experience (hey - it could happen!)
5) Updated Java, with 1.4 support, and more importantly, fixing of several bugs that are preventing some major apps from being able to run under Mac OS X.
 
OS X upgrade price

I'll pay - providing it moves a bit faster.

Also I would like to see the functionality that I have achieved through Fruitmenu, TinkerTool, etc. built in to the system.

(No, I dont want to learn UNIX, thanks. I appreciate what it does, but I dont have the time, or the mental hard drive space.)
All these new 'haxies' are great!
 
10.2?

well if it is 10.2....hopefully it'll have a very much needed speed increase...maybe even some support for older scanners since the software won't work?!

I'd pay $20 for it...but not anymore...otherwise I'll look for it via that internet...thank u very much... :rolleyes:
 
if they improve networking with NT and Win2K servers, I'll pay the upgrade right now... its the main thing holding up OSX here @ work...

if we network to a PC Server, mounts fine, then clicking into it = crash and unmounting of the server... its annoying. and doesnt work. And Dave rocks, but we dont wanna use it (our IT person doesnt anyway...)
 
all the other stuff would be great...I just want SPEED, baby speed

btw, what is it now...6 months since 10.1? And back at MWSF Steve said "we now have more people than ever working on OSX." This should be a biggie...
 
Originally posted by dukestreet
If it is a major release, like they're saying, I hope they don't expect us to pay for it. It will be nice to have though, and most people probably wouldn't have a problem shelling out a few dollars.
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I'm not as worried about paying as I am about having to order a CD. I hate waiting for Apple to ship me a CD.

I download gig size files all the time, so it doesn't bother me :)

TL
 
Re: Get ready to ante up...

Originally posted by serpicolugnut
Whatever it's called (10.2 or 10.5), the next upgrade to Mac OS X will be a paid upgrade. From what I've seen, the feature set doesn't look like they can justify a full $99-129 price, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it go for more than the $19.95 shipping & handling that they got for 10.1.

From what I've read, we'll see the following...

1) Improved speed (how much is anybodys guess)
2) New Finder features (Spring Loaded Folders, Thumbnails, "Open With" context menus, various tweaks to Column view's Preview)
3) Enhanced "Accessbility" options for those with disabilities
4) Enhancements to Carbon applications, that allow them to antialias their text (makes IE look much much better).

This is all I've read about so far. There seems to be a lot missing that we are all clamoring for. Most notably:
1) USB Printer Sharing
2) Finder Labels (Snax can do it - why can't Apple?)
3) Improved browsing of network volumes - especially SMB shares.
4) Improved dock options - including the ability to turn it off and revert to a pure OS 9 like experience (hey - it could happen!)
5) Updated Java, with 1.4 support, and more importantly, fixing of several bugs that are preventing some major apps from being able to run under Mac OS X.
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I'm sorry, but I disagree. All that adds up to a bug fix and enabling of features that should have been there in the first place.

This is NOT a new version and in no way rates anything more than free download or $20 for CD shipment.

Steve has the capability to milk us to death with MacOS X if we let this thought process go without comment.

So, I respectfully disagree :)

TL
 
Originally posted by gandalf55
if they improve networking with NT and Win2K servers, I'll pay the upgrade right now... its the main thing holding up OSX here @ work...

if we network to a PC Server, mounts fine, then clicking into it = crash and unmounting of the server... its annoying. and doesnt work. And Dave rocks, but we dont wanna use it (our IT person doesnt anyway...)
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I use two Win2K Servers at home running SFM and I don't have any crashing problems...

I'm just using simple file shares and have no need for a PDC or ActiveDirectory so that may be the difference.

Dave is weird. I own it, and I went back to SFM under Win2K for now until they fix Dave. I think it's very broken under 10.1.3.

There is a new update in beta right now...

TL
 
Gandalf

RE: NT working. I have experienced the same thing. We had to go BACK to os9 because OSX can not network with NT properly.

OS 10.0 - OS10.1.3 have ALL promised full networking with legacy systems. Apple has lied about this. I will be furious if they make me pay AGAIN for something they sold me already once. (the ability to network)

Apple should be ashamed how they have dealt with this issue.

For anyone unclear on the complexity and implications check out the OsX networking discussion board on apple.com with the Thread that has over 150 posts! People are pissed!

APPLE DO NOT CHARGE FOR THE ABILITY TO NETWORK or you will loose way more in hardware sales then you will ever recover with the fees you will charge for the new upgrade.

My work the IT guys have never liked Macs and now they are pressuring purchasing to not allow ANY Mac purchases because of this problem.

All the work I have done to "convert" users is being lost.

I won't be switching. But I don't make all of the purchasing decisions.
 
Re: 10.2?

Originally posted by eyelikeart
I'd pay $20 for it...but not anymore...otherwise I'll look for it via that internet...thank u very much... :rolleyes:
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The attorney in me has to advise you to revise this quote, as I'm sure you really meant that if you have to pay in excess of $20, you will look to download it from Apple's website and pay via credit card as you wouldn't want to wait for shipping.

:)
 
Originally posted by Buggy
Gandalf

RE: NT working. I have experienced the same thing. We had to go BACK to os9 because OSX can not network with NT properly.

OS 10.0 - OS10.1.3 have ALL promised full networking with legacy systems. Apple has lied about this. I will be furious if they make me pay AGAIN for something they sold me already once. (the ability to network)

Apple should be ashamed how they have dealt with this issue.

For anyone unclear on the complexity and implications check out the OsX networking discussion board on apple.com with the Thread that has over 150 posts! People are pissed!
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As many people on that thread stated, this only happens if you use appletalk. If you cannect via Samba (ie smb://domain;server/share) it will work.

Admittedly, this isn't quite as handy as appletalk, but it is a workaround to the problem. And once the share is mounted it browses and acts just like an appletalk mount.

Matthew
 
Re: Re: 10.2?

Originally posted by mcrain


The attorney in me has to advise you to revise this quote, as I'm sure you really meant that if you have to pay in excess of $20, you will look to download it from Apple's website and pay via credit card as you wouldn't want to wait for shipping.

:)
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hmm...maybe that's what I meant then...

but if I were to stumble upon it via that internet...I would have to forcibly argue with my conscience as to whether or not I download it! :p
 
don't forget..

Airport Software Base Station... much needed functionality thats missing from OS X thats in OS 9.
 
10.2 Should Be Free

I agree with Buggy, the upgrade should be free, because the real OSX is not finished. Printing is still very unreliable (for me it works perfectly only 50% of the time) and the speed still isn't up to par with OS9. I have a G4 titanium 667, the top of the line portable, and using OSX is not snappy and as responsive as it should be. Also java support is woefully inadequate; many sites I visit do not work correctly because of this. I am amazed at what a great OS version X is, but, let's be honest, 10.1 should really be considered the beginning of true functionality and 10.2, a bug fix. A free download and a nominal $19.95 fee for the CD.
 
Welcome to the posts, OSXconvert.

Now I hate to start becoming a disappointment, but I thought Apple made us pay for the upgrade CD to 10.1. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple does it again.

And since 10.2 should have a large number of features, the amount of file sizes will be very large, around 400 to 500MB. I would find it very unfair for those of us who lack the benefit of Cable or DSL to download the file without interruption (including Yours Truly!).

So it will probably be another pay to upgrade situation.
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In the time it takes to read this message, an Apple computer will already have performed 15 billion float-point operations more than a consumer PC.
 
Be glad you don't use windows...anywhere from $100 to $200 just to UPGRADE...$200 to $300 for the full versions.

You can also break it down this way:
Price of gas to drive to your nearest Apple Store, where they distribute the discs for FREE...or
Price of a disc to be mailed to you...

Which one comes out cheaper?
 
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