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Source: Nielsen

Nielsen: Apple the number one U.S. smartphone maker with 28% share

According to June data from Nielsen, in second quarter 2011, Google’s Android operating system holds a 39% share of the U.S. consumer smartphone market. Nielsen pegs Apple’s iOS next at 28 percent, with RIM Blackberry at 20 percent. Versus Nielsen’s last measure, March-May 2011, Android and iOS are each up 1% and RIM is down 1%.

Because Apple is the only company manufacturing smartphones with the iOS operating system, it is clearly the top smartphone manufacturer in the United States with 28% share. Other leading manufacturers include RIM (20%),HTC, whose Android phones represents 14 percent of the smartphone market and whose Windows Mobile/WP7 devices account for 6 percent of the market; and Motorola, whose Android devices are owned by 11 percent of smartphone consumers.

Samsung’s Android devices are used by 8 percent of smartphone owners while their Windows Mobile/WP7 phones are used by 2 percent of smartphone owners.

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Perspective, with a capital P.

Now factor in total mobile share, and you'll get an even bigger dose of it.

Additionally:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1184232/
 
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Grats to Apple. However, that still have a long way to go outside the US.

That shouldn't be a problem:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1199985/

Nixon wasn't the only one who could go to China:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/25/t...-in-china-zoom-ahead-of-competitors.html?_r=1

Apple’s sales in China zoom ahead of competitors

“A year after opening a flagship store here, Apple has a problem that any retailer would envy: the huge 16,000-square-foot space is already too small,” David Barboza reports for The New York Times.
“Huge crowds descend the store’s glass staircase, only to discover legions of mostly young Chinese crowding around spare displays of Apple’s devices,” Barboza reports. “Another Apple Store, four miles away, is also packed.”

Barboza reports, “To cope, Apple says it is now planning a third, even larger Shanghai store, as well as dozens of other stores throughout the country… Analysts say few global brands have achieved such a feat in China. ‘Apple has done what Google and Facebook cannot do: become No. 1 in China,’ said John Quelch, former senior associate dean of Harvard Business School and now head of the China Europe International Business School in Shanghai. ‘Scarcity sells, and this is the same strategy Apple has used in the U.S.’”

“Last week, Apple reported blockbuster sales and profits in its third quarter, including $3.8 billion in revenue in greater China, which includes Taiwan and Hong Kong,” Barboza reports. “For the first three quarters of Apple’s fiscal year, revenue in greater China was $8.8 billion — six times that of a year earlier. Last quarter, Apple may have even generated more revenue in China than Lenovo — the Chinese PC maker.”
 

Steve121178

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Much more importantly, those stats show the Android marketshare at 39% with iOS trailing with only 28%. That's quite some increase for Android! The gap is only going to get wider.

The manufacturer is irrelevant, it's all about software. Google must be rubbing their collective hands together!
 

voonyx

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Much more importantly, those stats show the Android marketshare at 39% with iOS trailing with only 28%. That's quite some increase for Android! The gap is only going to get wider.

The manufacturer is irrelevant, it's all about software. Google must be rubbing their collective hands together!

If it's all about software, Android is already done.
 

Steve121178

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Then Google has a long way to go.

From my early impressions, iOS 5 seems to have incorporated many Android type functions & the new notifications are a clear nod to Android. I'd say the platform has many advantages over iOS. Likewise iOS has some advantages over Android. Not many though.
 

voonyx

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From my early impressions, iOS 5 seems to have incorporated many Android type functions & the new notifications are a clear nod to Android. I'd say the platform has many advantages over iOS. Likewise iOS has some advantages over Android. Not many though.

Features don't make great software, if those features cause every Android phone ever made to start lagging after two weeks. iOS is a far superior OS to Android as far as stability, fluidity and ease of use.
 

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Features don't make great software, if those features cause every Android phone ever made to start lagging after two weeks. iOS is a far superior OS to Android as far as stability, fluidity and ease of use.

Well if all you do is shove more and more wonderful features into your phone without mastering the basics, you'll end up with a nice house on a lousy foundation.

Creeping feature-itis.

No, not on smartphones it's not.

Absolutely.

However smartphones at this point are just a piece of the Post-PC puzzle. The industry has expanded well beyond smartphones. The most important piece, and the foundation for computing moving forward is not the smartphone.

It's the tablet.

The interesting thing to ask is, why can't Google translate their smartphone share to tablet share? Frankly, the tablet market is not like the smartphone market. There are no contracts. It's in the tablet market where you really see the true mettle of an OS, especially in terms of actual computing usability.
 
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Steve121178

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Features don't make great software, if those features cause every Android phone ever made to start lagging after two weeks. iOS is a far superior OS to Android as far as stability, fluidity and ease of use.

There is nothing factually correct about your post.

Stability, fluidity & ease of use is all down to the individual user. Some will enjoy Android more, others will prefer using iOS.
 

ChazUK

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Incredible profits and market-share had by Apple.

Good to see companies like Apple, Google and HTC kick the traditional big players into touch too (Nokia, Motorola e.t.c).

Things have moved so fast since the iPhone was introduced, in a good way.
 

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Stability, fluidity & ease of use is all down to the individual user. Some will enjoy Android more, others will prefer using iOS.

User Experience is not as variable as you'd like to think. It isn't random.

It doesn't simply vary from user to user. Apple is known for creating user-centric experiences. Everyone else is known for creating the opposite, or rather not to the level Apple does. Reputations don't happened by accident. Something gets reproduced consistently in the User Experience.

Vertical business model vs. horizontal business model. One model is ideal for a user-centric experience consistently, while the other makes it far more difficult to achieve consistently.

Put the pieces of the Apple puzzle together. Look at what's behind their success. It will be things the other players tend to lack.

This doesn't have to be difficult. The whole "it varies from person to person" is a nice and diplomatic thing to say, but it completely ignores basic social psychology. Apple's success with user-centric design is the most reproducible from user to user in the industry. It's why they're known for it.
 

voonyx

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There is nothing factually correct about your post.

Stability, fluidity & ease of use is all down to the individual user. Some will enjoy Android more, others will prefer using iOS.

Wouldn't that signify that it's the user's fault when something goes wrong? And weren't people up in arms when Apple said "you're holding it wrong"? But now, it is up to the individual user?

If your software is good, you're not going to see one user having one experience, and another having a wholly different experience. Good software provides a consistent experience for the majority.

How is stability down to the individual user? You're telling me that it's the fault of the user if they experience lag on their android phone and don't on an iOS device (or vice versa)?

Preference is one thing, but stability and ease of use is not something that's going to vary from user to user...if it's bad it's bad, if it's good it's good (relatively speaking)...especially not in iOS, which is good software.
 

FrozenTomato

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Much more importantly, those stats show the Android marketshare at 39% with iOS trailing with only 28%. That's quite some increase for Android! The gap is only going to get wider.

The manufacturer is irrelevant, it's all about software. Google must be rubbing their collective hands together!


This is hilarious. Google earns Zero *directly* from Android. Zero. So their market share is USELESS. It's actually worse than useless, because they're going to pay Oracle millions/billions. :D

heck, Microsoft earns more from Android than Google. :D
 

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This discussion is about the software on phones, r.e. the OP.

In which case you're absolutely right.

But are the consumers who are part of the iPhone share numbers saying something totally different?

For this 28%, is it about the software, or is it about the device?

Is it the device that carries as much weight as the software behind it?

Is it the total unified package of both combined?
 

voonyx

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In which case you're absolutely right.

But are the consumers who are part of the iPhone share numbers saying something totally different?

For this 28%, is it about the software, or is it about the device?

Is it the device that carries as much weight as the software behind it?

Is it the total unified package of both combined?

Exactly. Are people buying the iPhone because they think the hardware looks great, take it home to find out the software sucks and then are scared to switch to Android because they just want to look cool? Are they forcing themselves to be miserable just to be with the in crowd?

OR is the more logical inference that they find that both hardware and software are amazing and the iPhone is a quality product which keeps them loyal?
 

BaldiMac

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This discussion is about the software on phones, r.e. the OP.

By manufacturer. Which you were okay to leave out because it supports your point of view.

Apple's 28% share gets it the most customers, the most profit, the most developers, the most revenue, and the most applications.

Android's 39% market share gets [Google, HTC, etc.] what?
 

FrozenTomato

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There is nothing factually correct about your post.

Stability, fluidity & ease of use is all down to the individual user. Some will enjoy Android more, others will prefer using iOS.


The Reason why Android has the market share they have despite being A crappy OS, is because majority of Android users Use their phone as a "nice" feature phone. They use their Android phones to make phone calls, that's it. They don't care if the OS is crap because these people are used to crappy feature phones.
 

Hellhammer

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In which case you're absolutely right.

But are the consumers who are part of the iPhone share numbers saying something totally different?

For this 28%, is it about the software, or is it about the device?

Is it the device that carries as much weight as the software behind it?

Is it the total unified package of both combined?

I wouldn't say people buy iPhones because of the hardware, that is not much different from the competitors. iOS, on the other hand, is but that seems to be a preference - some prefer iOS and others Android or something else.

Of course, you need both, good hardware and software to be successful. That is one of the reasons why few OEMs dominate the Android sales.
 

roadbloc

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Then Google has a long way to go.

iOS remains by far the dominant mobile operating system.

You must be joking. In the rest of the world, Android is by far the most dominant. In fact, I'd say, from a worldwide persecutive, Android is the most dominant mobile OS.
 

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You must be joking. In the rest of the world, Android is by far the most dominant. In fact, I'd say, from a worldwide persecutive, Android is the most dominant mobile OS.

No.

iPhones, iPods, iPads, etc. Anything that runs iOS. Worldwide.

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/050211-apple-ios-share.html

Keep in mind, Android's presence is next to nothing outside the smartphone realm. It's not a negative thing, but it needs to be considered when you look at the big picture.

http://www.netmarketshare.com/2011/06/01/Where-s-the-iPad-s-Competition

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2011/jul/06/ipad-browsing-web-domination-android

In other words, for every thousand page views by a tablet, 965 would come from an iPad, 19 from a Galaxy Tab, 12 from a Xoom and 3 from a PlayBook. (In market share terms, that would show up as Android having a 3 percent share.)

With 25m iPads sold, that would imply (on a like-for-like basis) that there are something like half a million Galaxy Tabs in use, and 325,000 Xooms.
 
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