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Sean Dempsey

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Does anyone know if there will be a desk with a circular raising/lowering pedestal that moves up and down, motorized. Maybe with a door at the top that slides apart like a nuclear missile silo. That way when you turn it on/off, or just at your leisure, you can make it rise up out of the desk like a monolith.
 
No, just put it on here so those that want to continue worshiping it like the greeks did in their time may do so!:)
 

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Does anyone know if there will be a desk with a circular raising/lowering pedestal that moves up and down, motorized. Maybe with a door at the top that slides apart like a nuclear missile silo. That way when you turn it on/off, or just at your leisure, you can make it rise up out of the desk like a monolith.

Here in Cambridge in the UK we have rising bollards which are probably just the right size. I suspect that they are probably quite expensive to install though!:)
 
In the past I've seen fancy mini-fridges that were recessed into the top of a kitchen counter type surface; you just touched a button and the top and bottom of the unit rise up to expose the contents. Mostly just a show-off gadget for chilling wine/champagne, and absolutely horrific for energy efficiency as every time you open/close it you have to cool the whole space again.

Without the fridge it'd be ideal, but I have no idea where you get these as they may be bespoke, though I would think someone must produce the basic units to install into the counter, I have no idea what to search for (had a quick go but couldn't find anything relevant).

Obviously you don't really want the fridge part, though it could be amazing for cooling you'd have to find a way to get cables in there.
 
Okay, so I found some stuff after looking for "hydraulic pedestals", but the offerings are fiendishly expensive, and not really intended for the original use; you'd still have to built something around them.

Your best option would be to make something yourself, or get someone who can to do it for you. You just need a basic telescopic hydraulic cylinder to do the lifting. You could probably do missile-silo style doors using a mechanical system operated as the platform moves upwards, or a pair of cylinders connected to the same circuit (so they operate at the same time or slightly before). Obviously timing is crucial on when such doors open ;)

The easier alternative, which is what I've seen with the show-off coolers, is to have basically two circular surfaces one above the other, with a gap large enough to fit the Mac Pro between them (well, a bit more than that), joined together with some kind of supports (metal rods would work well). This way when the unit is closed the top surface is flush with your desk/counter, and when raised the bottom surface is flush, revealing the Mac Pro.

I've seen a pretty cool alternative you can use to an air compressor for operate the hydraulics; since you shouldn't need a huge amount of pressure to lift a new Mac Pro, you basically have a reservoir flush with the top of the desk/counter, with a cylindrical "plug" inside that has a handle on top. The plug has pins on it that correspond to notches in the reservoir such that when you rotate the plug it locks into place. Basically with the plug locked in the upper position, flush with the desk surface, the reservoir is full of air and the telescopic cylinder isn't', so the Mac Pro would be in the low position. When you rotate the plug and push it down, it forces air form the reservoir into the telescopic cylinder, raising the Mac Pro into the high position, you then lock the plug in place to keep it there. Since you'd need to go fully bespoke to get this done then it's an option if you don't want to have to use a compressor to do it, but such a manual system would need to be done very professionally.

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Actually a simpler way to do the manual switch would be to just get two telescopic cylinders, connect them together and seal them while one is fully up, and the other is fully down. With the latter being the one with the mount on top, and the other having any suitable kind of handle attached. Basically when you push the handle down it forces the cylinder to close, pushing its air into the other cylinder and forcing it (with the Mac Pro) up. It's important the handle can be locked into place though so that the Mac Pro's weight doesn't just cause it to lower back down again. If you do a handle fitted to a heavy plug then you can make the mechanism virtually effortless; if you can get the plug to the right weight then the Mac Pro's weight may even allow the mechanism to close "automatically", though you may still need to pull up the handle for the last bit.

Damnit, now I really want to try and build something like this. I haven't done anything with hydraulics since high school though, but I'm thinking even something simple like the hydraulic tubes from a pair of office chairs might be sufficient, as they're definitely strong enough.
 
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Can someone do a gif of the black can emerging from the usual case please, I'm rubbish at them.

Call it the classic Mac Pro retractable dock. :D
 
Okay, so I found some stuff after looking for "hydraulic pedestals", but the offerings are fiendishly expensive, and not really intended for the original use; you'd still have to built something around them.

Your best option would be to make something yourself, or get someone who can to do it for you. You just need a basic telescopic hydraulic cylinder to do the lifting. You could probably do missile-silo style doors using a mechanical system operated as the platform moves upwards, or a pair of cylinders connected to the same circuit (so they operate at the same time or slightly before). Obviously timing is crucial on when such doors open ;)

The easier alternative, which is what I've seen with the show-off coolers, is to have basically two circular surfaces one above the other, with a gap large enough to fit the Mac Pro between them (well, a bit more than that), joined together with some kind of supports (metal rods would work well). This way when the unit is closed the top surface is flush with your desk/counter, and when raised the bottom surface is flush, revealing the Mac Pro.

I've seen a pretty cool alternative you can use to an air compressor for operate the hydraulics; since you shouldn't need a huge amount of pressure to lift a new Mac Pro, you basically have a reservoir flush with the top of the desk/counter, with a cylindrical "plug" inside that has a handle on top. The plug has pins on it that correspond to notches in the reservoir such that when you rotate the plug it locks into place. Basically with the plug locked in the upper position, flush with the desk surface, the reservoir is full of air and the telescopic cylinder isn't', so the Mac Pro would be in the low position. When you rotate the plug and push it down, it forces air form the reservoir into the telescopic cylinder, raising the Mac Pro into the high position, you then lock the plug in place to keep it there. Since you'd need to go fully bespoke to get this done then it's an option if you don't want to have to use a compressor to do it, but such a manual system would need to be done very professionally.

Thank you for taking me seriously.
 
The inherent problem I see with this idea is where are all the cables going to be?

Cables to the external hard drives
Cables to the monitor(s)
Power Cord
USB
etc
etc


I envision something that looks like an octopus rising up and down out of the desk once everything is plugged in. Sure the nMP looks sexy sitting on a display shelf with nothing plugged into it. Reality.... not so much so.
 
The inherent problem I see with this idea is where are all the cables going to be?
You just need to bunch all the cables together as they leave the bottom of the pedestal, probably through a hole so they don't foul anywhere. You can get bendy plastic strips that you just screw down for a really tight grip on the cables.

It probably anchor them at a second location off the pedestal, with enough slack between the anchors, as this would reduce the risk of tugging to an absolute minimum, but as far as the challenges go it's one of the easier problems to solve ;)
 
Google "TV lift kits". I think repurposing one of those might be the easiest way to get what you're looking for.

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Actually, that's overkill. "12V linear actuator" from your favourite online auction site looks the way forward ($50). Can't work out concealing it from above yet: I wouldn't put a cap of any form over it as my understanding is that the top is crucial for cooling?
 
What you really need is fog rising up around it as it comes out. Like a cloud city freezing chamber.
 
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