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No 'Apple' on 'Apple Key'
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I just noticed yesterday on my new iMac bluetooth keyboard, there is no 'Apple' icon on the command key.
Is this the first time this has happened or has it been omitted before?
AND WHY?!?!?!
I think they omitted it with the Unibody Macbook's. Although I'm not certain. I was a little disappointed. My mother bought one of the Unibodies and I kept trying to tell her, over the phone, to press Apple + C and such hotkeys and she was getting very confused.
EDIT: Link above identifies actual version where it was removed. My MBP happens to be one of the last with it still on
i think having the apple logo all over the keyboard, and the menu bar items seem tacky. going down the list in edit seing C V ect ect. Its over use of the logo.
I was very upset that on the new White macbooks they have the bottom in the rubbery material, with the apple logo huge on the bottom. Seems like a throw back to the original iBook's but it seems tacky, and over use of the logo to me.
I was very upset that on the new White macbooks they have the bottom in the rubbery material, with the apple logo huge on the bottom. Seems like a throw back to the original iBook's but it seems tacky, and over use of the logo to me.
I've got the one in my sig , rev. 4,1 and it does not have the apple symbol. So before '08 obviously.
Well... If we stop to think about the conventions used between operating systems...
Apple/Command key is basically the alternative of the Windows key on Windows computers. It's also called the Super key in Linux.
Also, interesting is the way Apple uses the Command key in lieu of the Control key... but has it in the location of the Alt key...
As a Linux and OSX user it gets rather confusing for me when I'm trying to do hotkeys. Although it'll get even more confusing when I start trying to learn Colemak.
Does anyone else think that Apple should follow the standard Windows/Unix keyboard layout? Also, then everyone should then replace the Win/Apple keys with either Command or Super. I think this difference really does confuse avid hotkey users. I mean if you are just picking up a Mac and don't know your way around the UI you would at least expect Ctrl+C to work.
Apple/Command key is basically the alternative of the Windows key on Windows computers. It's also called the Super key in Linux.
Also, interesting is the way Apple uses the Command key in lieu of the Control key... but has it in the location of the Alt key...
As a Linux and OSX user it gets rather confusing for me when I'm trying to do hotkeys.
Although it'll get even more confusing when I start trying to learn Colemak. Does anyone else think that Apple should follow the standard Windows/Unix keyboard layout? Also, then everyone should then replace the Win/Apple keys with either Command or Super. I think this difference really does confuse avid hotkey users. I mean if you are just picking up a Mac and don't know your way around the UI you would at least expect Ctrl+C to work.
I don't think Apple should throw away 25 years of muscle memory on the part of millions of Mac users and 30 years of UI design just to please switchers
http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Swedish_Campground.txt
His Steveness thought the same 26 years ago
I don't think Apple should throw away 25 years of muscle memory on the part of millions of Mac users and 30 years of UI design just to please switchers
The placement is less of an issue I suppose.
I think it's a good move to go to a platform independent key name. I think that Command would make a good name for the key in general.
Linux and Windows should change that.
Didn't "open apple" (the one on the left) and "closed apple" (the one on the right) serve different purposes back in the day, or am I making that up? I always remember it specifically being "open apple-ctrl-reset".
Best reasoning.ever.
But i still miss the apple key...
Me too, ... <painting one on>
million dollar idea: little apple decals to ship with all new macs and the other larger stickers. Or sell replacement command keys that can be swapped out.
I'd buy a dozen and stockpile!
That's a good idea. I've just been using the big ones that came with the Mac. It makes it a little harder to touch type, but I'm getting used to it
Well, thinking back to the early days, when we were in training groups we were always told to 'Command this' or 'Command that', but as users in the office it was always 'Apple this' or 'Apple that'.
I'm not really that bothered but it does seem as if a little bit of history as been erased - and I agree that it's probably to help the switchers.
Talking about muscle memory, who's got nice ganglions on their wrists due to millions of 'Shift-Option-Command' type gymnastics?
(Just a few Apples there to annoy Steve, I know he monitors my posts closely.)
I'm not really that bothered but it does seem as if a little bit of history as been erased - and I agree that it's probably to help the switchers.
Talking about muscle memory, who's got nice ganglions on their wrists due to millions of 'Shift-Option-Command' type gymnastics?
(Just a few Apples there to annoy Steve, I know he monitors my posts closely.)
Haha!
Oh don't, my parents just ordered a mac today and I'm not in the country to help ease them into a new OS.
I was a little sad when I noticed the Apple symbol was gone. I like it
I have a 1st gen aluminum iMac (September 2007) which was also the 1st gen aluminum keyboards. I am at work and not in front of that machine, but if I recall correctly that was the first Mac to lose the in lieu of the "Command" on the key. This was at the tail end of Tiger, Leopard was a few months away from release, boot camp was in beta, Macs were going Intel and the possibility of running Windows on your Mac was becoming interesting for switchers. Apple made the determination that switching the for "Command" would make the switching and usage of the key easier for windows users who want to learn similar keyboard commands.
And yes open apple/closed apple were used for different prompts going back to the Apple IIE days.
in lieu of the "Command" on the key. This was at the tail end of Tiger, Leopard was a few months away from release, boot camp was in beta, Macs were going Intel and the possibility of running Windows on your Mac was becoming interesting for switchers. Apple made the determination that switching the for "Command" would make the switching and usage of the key easier for windows users who want to learn similar keyboard commands. And yes open apple/closed apple were used for different prompts going back to the Apple IIE days.
Hey Hellhammer. I'm sending you my keyboard by mail so you can fix it for me. Shouldn't take any longer than a couple days, eh?
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