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No copy paste on Windows mobile 7.
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I think it's kinda ridiculous that it's going to lack copy & paste... Didn't they see how negatively people reacted to the iPhone not having it until two years after its release?
Indeed, it is ironic.
Struck me as a shame though, I like the look of their new OS (if that's even the correct term) and don't like that everyone now has a super easy way to troll all over it. The OS looks different from the iPhone. Different could be good. At least it's not a copy cat.
It did strike me that it probably won't work on Mac OS X though which is a fail. Or am I behind the times? Do Microsoft support Zune etc on macs now?
Struck me as a shame though, I like the look of their new OS (if that's even the correct term) and don't like that everyone now has a super easy way to troll all over it. The OS looks different from the iPhone. Different could be good. At least it's not a copy cat.
It did strike me that it probably won't work on Mac OS X though which is a fail. Or am I behind the times? Do Microsoft support Zune etc on macs now?
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That's puzzling, to say the least. You'd think they'd have learned from the backlash against the iPhone on this one...
That's puzzling, to say the least. You'd think they'd have learned from the backlash against the iPhone on this one...
I wouldn't label myself as a Windows fanboy, but I suppose you probably would, because I was critical of various aspects of the iPhone including the initial absence of copy and paste in the first iPhone OS (thankfully rectified), and the locked-down App distribution system.
I am just as critical of Microsoft for taking out existing features such as copy and paste in its newest OS, and for its recent decisions regarding App distribution.
Where are all the Apple fanboys who said it wasn't needed?
The Windows fanboys haven't changed their position. They're complaining just as hard to Microsoft as they did to Apple.
MS is claiming their app integration hubs that handle clicking on photos, and recognition of phone/email/url/etc text triggers, remove "most" of the need. Maybe, but all the rest of us just shake our heads, because "most" doesn't cut it.
I actually feel bad for them....because i know how i felt when the iphone didn't have c/p.
Look, when will you all just accept the fact that adding cut and paste into a smart phone apparently takes several years to put in?
First Apple showed you, now Microsoft is showing you. How many more experienced tech companies will have to suffer before you learn?
This stuff is hard, people! I mean, it's not rocket scince. It's much harder!
First Apple showed you, now Microsoft is showing you. How many more experienced tech companies will have to suffer before you learn?
This stuff is hard, people! I mean, it's not rocket scince. It's much harder!
It's just odd at some of the similarities between the new Windows Phone 7 and the iPhone OS:
No initial copy and paste
Apps only thru an App Store
No initial third-party app multitasking
OS provider will control all aspects of device updates
I didn't imply that you were a windows fan boy. I was just as critical. I just hated the fact that some people would rip on me saying "iPhone sucks coz it has no copy paste"
I'm curious if the "fanboy outrage" will cause him to reconsider what he said.
Apple was pretty adamant that their original implementation was the way to to go, too (imo, by their way of ignoring the issue).
Paul Thurrot's idea on copy and sure has seemed to change over the years. LOL
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/03/18/thurrott
Interesting new information has arisen:
Microsoft claims that normal copy&paste isn't needed in most situations, because WPS7 will pick the most common actions, so that clicking on items like:
Okay, all except the last are known to Safari and RIM users. No big deal. And they're right, those actions would take care of many situations.
However, I recall a patent application from MS a couple of years ago where apps would register for the types of data they knew how to use, and thus when you selected items on the screen, you'd get a choice of what apps to "give" the item to. Similar to the current "send to" but for selections not files.
For example, clicking on a photo would allow calling up a photo editor or MMS. Clicking on a phone number would call up the phone or allow saving to Contacts. Any selection could also go to a text editor, of course.
So you can see that if every app, and ONLY those apps, that knew what to do with a certain type of information, was immediately available to choose from when you did a selection, then the old way of doing unassociated copy/paste would become obsolete.
If that's what MS is headed for, that would indeed count as a useful paradigm shift in copy/paste.
Microsoft claims that normal copy&paste isn't needed in most situations, because WPS7 will pick the most common actions, so that clicking on items like:
- Phone numbers will automatically launch phone
- URLs will automatically launch browser
- Addresses will call up maps
- Unrecognized text will call up search engine
Okay, all except the last are known to Safari and RIM users. No big deal. And they're right, those actions would take care of many situations.
However, I recall a patent application from MS a couple of years ago where apps would register for the types of data they knew how to use, and thus when you selected items on the screen, you'd get a choice of what apps to "give" the item to. Similar to the current "send to" but for selections not files.
For example, clicking on a photo would allow calling up a photo editor or MMS. Clicking on a phone number would call up the phone or allow saving to Contacts. Any selection could also go to a text editor, of course.
So you can see that if every app, and ONLY those apps, that knew what to do with a certain type of information, was immediately available to choose from when you did a selection, then the old way of doing unassociated copy/paste would become obsolete.
If that's what MS is headed for, that would indeed count as a useful paradigm shift in copy/paste.
I like this LOL
Ok, I get a UPS, Fedex or some other line of text in an email. Can I highlight it and paste it into the appropriate tracking information? Can I highlight a block of text from a webpage and paste it in an email, or notepad etc? These are common things I do on the iphone and was looking forward to playing around with WinMo 7/ Looks like I will have to wait an see what the hacking community has to offer.
Aha. Thanks. Good one.
That's an excellent example of something that wouldn't work automatically, and thus MS's idea of context sensitive select/do-something would not work in that case.
(Unless it had an app that recognized UPS and Fedex tracking numbers. Hmm. If sent to Bing for search could it be made to know enough to do that? Reminds me of how Google recognizes shorthand for movie searches, patent numbers, etc. )