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prouse

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These forums are great for this type of discussion - obviously these predictions are worth the money you paid for them - here it goes.

Fact: AT&T will not sell this phone through its corporate channel.
- After speaking with multiple AT&T corporate sales reps, AT&T will only sell the iPhone to individuals - "NO CORPORATE LIABILITY". Further, they will not allow you to purchase the phone as an individual and later change it to a corporate account. They stated the reason for this policy is that "the iPhone is a consumer entertainment product - not a true business product". They specifically referred to the inability of the iPhone to sync with Exchange.

Prediction: I believe there are three reasons for AT&T's policy.
1. They don't have enough initial supply to satisfy consumer and corporate demand. Corporate users who don't want to shell out the $500 / $600 on there own will still want it but be forced to wait - they will be thrilled when AT&T changes their policy.
2. Once the consumer demand is fulfilled (and sales become stagnant) corporations will be allowed to purchase the unit. Thus giving a post release boost to sales. Wall Street wants to see continued sales growth - this gives it to them.
3. Full Exchange support will happen within 3 months of launch - either from Apple/AT&T or a 3rd party. There are too many Exchange implementations and too much of a business opportunity not to have this happen. AT&T / Apple may be putting the finishing touches on this support - and then sell it to us as a premium service from AT&T. Anther way to nickel and dime us to death. This will also give AT&T its justification to reclassify the unit as a corporate / business class device.

Other predictions:
1. The 1st gen iPhone has some obvious limitations (no 3G, fixed battery, only 4/8 GB of storage (very small for a video iPod)). Early adopters won't want to live 2 years knowing that the 2nd gen units will be released in 6 months to a year. When the second generation iPhone is released, Apple will have a program that allows you to send in your phone and have it quickly upgraded for a fee. Apple did a similar thing a number of years ago with the Duo Dock.
2. A 2 year contact maybe longer than the actual life of the battery (depends on usage). How can you be expected to pay for a contract with a unit that can't stay powered-up.
3. 3G is already built-in but turned off. Just like the MacBook Pro's wireless "N". Time constraints may not of allowed them to enable it at launch.
 
just to clear something up, you can purchase an iPhone on a corporate account as long as you pay the bill yourself. if your company pays your bill, you cannot get an iPhone. but as long as you pay for the bill yourself you still can, even if your account is a corporate account. i asked this numerous times because i have a corporate account.
 
... 3. 3G is already built-in but turned off. Just like the MacBook Pro's wireless "N". Time constraints may not of allowed them to enable it at launch.

Really!!? :eek: How certain is this?

Does this mean that the 3G will be available or switched on later when AT&T offers it?
 
just to clear something up, you can purchase an iPhone on a corporate account as long as you pay the bill yourself. if your company pays your bill, you cannot get an iPhone. but as long as you pay for the bill yourself you still can, even if your account is a corporate account. i asked this numerous times because i have a corporate account.

I think it's the other way around. You cannot have a corporate account, they simply don't exist. You can have a personal account that is paid for by a company -- Apple and AT&T don't care what credit card pays the bills.
 
3. 3G is already built-in but turned off. Just like the MacBook Pro's wireless "N". Time constraints may not of allowed them to enable it at launch.

I can tell you right now that this is not the case. Don't hold out hope for this one.
 
hmm 3G built-in, and turned off? Won't make sense not to mention a single thing about it. You would think Apple will mention it has 3G so they can get more potential buyers.
 
I think it's the other way around. You cannot have a corporate account, they simply don't exist. You can have a personal account that is paid for by a company -- Apple and AT&T don't care what credit card pays the bills.
When I log into my account online it says the name of my company instead of my personal name, but I pay the bill each month and it comes addressed to me. I guess I'm just mis-using the term "corporate account" in this scenario. However I wanted to just point out that people who have rate plans and discounts through their company can still get the iPhone as long as they pay their own bill. People who are in a similar situation that I am in.
 
When I log into my account online it says the name of my company instead of my personal name, but I pay the bill each month and it comes addressed to me. I guess I'm just mis-using the term "corporate account" in this scenario. However I wanted to just point out that people who have rate plans and discounts through their company can still get the iPhone as long as they pay their own bill. People who are in a similar situation that I am in.

Pretty sure you will be ok. If the bill comes to you in your name you should be fine. I have a discount through my old employer and when I log into my account it has my name there....but over to the right(in real small letters) it has the old company name. I am not that worried about it. Worst case senario I'll have them remove the corp discount
 
I can tell you right now that this is not the case. Don't hold out hope for this one.

Base on what knowledge???? Having 3G built in already makes sense to me. The issue with the battery life using 3G was probally the problem.

Edge will probally meet my needs fine anyway.

as far as his other predictions, Here's mine:

Apple will gain large inroads into the cell market.
Smaller, lower cost Iphones will come out in 2008 insuring the above.
Motorola will get out of the cell market or fold....
Apple stock will hit 190 a share by July '08
Apple will offer battery replacement program in 2008 for Iphone.
Software updates to IPhone will be the number one feature and ensure the products longevity
 
Base on what knowledge???? Having 3G built in already makes sense to me. The issue with the battery life using 3G was probally the problem.

Edge will probally meet my needs fine anyway.

as far as his other predictions, Here's mine:

Apple will gain large inroads into the cell market.
Smaller, lower cost Iphones will come out in 2008 insuring the above.
Motorola will get out of the cell market or fold....
Apple stock will hit 190 a share by July '08
Apple will offer battery replacement program in 2008 for Iphone.
Software updates to IPhone will be the number one feature and ensure the products longevity
Motorola get out? they have more cell phones on the streets then any other manufacturer in the US (i think Nokia is worldwide). when anyone can walk in and get a free RAZR or a sub $100 RAZR for Pay-As-You-Go customers, Motorola isn't going anywhere. they don't even offer anything similar in functionality to the iPhone, so it's not even a direct competitor. i have to disagree with you on this one.
 
Agreed, MOT isn't going anywhere. There are literally billions of people just looking for a cheap, easy to use, no frills and dependable phone. MOT fills that bill.
 
Base on what knowledge???? Having 3G built in already makes sense to me. The issue with the battery life using 3G was probally the problem.

Edge will probally meet my needs fine anyway.

as far as his other predictions, Here's mine:

Apple will gain large inroads into the cell market.
Smaller, lower cost Iphones will come out in 2008 insuring the above.
Motorola will get out of the cell market or fold....
Apple stock will hit 190 a share by July '08
Apple will offer battery replacement program in 2008 for Iphone.
Software updates to IPhone will be the number one feature and ensure the products longevity

It's a selling point. If there was a 3G chip in there that could be activated later, no doubt steve would tell you that, just like he told you 3rd party apps were coming. It would entice more people to buy.

But it's also not something you can just pop in a phone and turn off and on like a lightswitch. There is no 3G chip included and just "turned off." And I do have a good source for this information.
 
There is not a 3G chip in the first generation iPhone. If there was, then it would create an issue with the Broadcom/Qualcomm patent issue, where all phones with 3G will eventually be banned for import into the US (unless legislation is passed, a pardon granted, or a settlement is reached). Everyone has been specifically saying that the iPhone is safe because it doesn't have 3G, and if it did but it was turned off, it would have come out by now in this whole turmoil.
 
Agreed, MOT isn't going anywhere. There are literally billions of people just looking for a cheap, easy to use, no frills and dependable phone. MOT fills that bill.

Motorola produced some of the worst and least intuitive UI in the market.
 
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