No good screens coming out of Apple?

[daneoni]

A lot of people have been complaining about displays and what i've observed is that there is no perfect screen in the Mac line of products (the only products i pay attention to)

The ACDs are grainy and sometime have a peptobismol pinkish hue, the iMacs have color shifting, dead pixels and problematic viewing angles. The MBP is either yellowish, greenish tones, terrible viewing angles whilst the MBs have a washed out display that requires a miracle calibration to make them useable. Each screen has either one or any combination of issues

All in all every screen in every line has its problems. Is this a result of cheap-ing out on screens by Apple or just flaws in LCD technology.....i dunno BUT a lot of people (me included) are simply not completely satisfied.

Personally am 90% satisfied with my MBP screen and around 95/97% with my iMac.

My conclusion?....there are simply no perfect LCDs out there, there are decent ones.....or there are and we're just being picky.

 

[Cybergypsy]

A lot of people have been complaining about displays and what i've observed is that there is no perfect screen in the Mac line of products (the only products i pay attention to)

The ACDs are grainy and sometime have a peptobismol pinkish hue, the iMacs have color shifting, dead pixels and problematic viewing angles. The MBP is either yellowish, greenish tones, terrible viewing angles whilst the MBs have a washed out display that requires a miracle calibration to make them useable. Each screen has either one or any combination of issues

All in all every screen in every line has its problems. Is this a result of cheap-ing out on screens by Apple or just flaws in LCD technology.....i dunno BUT a lot of people (me included) are simply not completely satisfied.

Personally am 90% satisfied with my MBP screen and around 95/97% with my iMac.

My conclusion?....there are simply no perfect LCDs out there, there are decent ones.....or there are and we're just being picky.

I had a yellow samsung on my MBP and tried to live with it, However i couldn't Now I have a Perfect LG screen and I love it....some people have had 4 or 5 replacements I really feel lucky and sad that others have to put up with the yellow tint!

 

[mcarnes]

I hear you man. I took a crap this morning that was not perfectly symmetrical. Frickin ruined my whole day.

 

[miniConvert]

I hear you man. I took a crap this morning that was not perfectly symmetrical. Frickin ruined my whole day.

LOL!

Gotta say, I've bought more Mac's in the last 18 months than most people will in a lifetime and I've not had issues with any of the screens. Obviously some people have had problems, but the quality of all of mine have been fantastic.

So, what I'm trying to say is, a little less of the doom and gloom would be good

 

[daneoni]

I hear you man. I took a crap this morning that was not perfectly symmetrical. Frickin ruined my whole day.

You shoulda sent it back and ordered a replacement till you finally got the perfectly symmetrical one.

 

[daneoni]

I had a yellow samsung on my MBP and tried to live with it, However i couldn't Now I have a Perfect LG screen and I love it....some people have had 4 or 5 replacements I really feel lucky and sad that others have to put up with the yellow tint!

Amen

 

[Alloye]

Is this a result of cheap-ing out on screens by Apple or just flaws in LCD technology.....i dunno BUT a lot of people (me included) are simply not completely satisfied.

It's the latter. LCD technology is far from perfect. For example, the ACDs use S-IPS panels. While S-IPS technology is known for its excellent color reproduction and wide viewing angles, it is also known for its backlight bleed, purple blacks, and glittery anti-glare coating. LG Philips is to blame here, so even non-Apple monitors that utilize these panels will suffer the same drawbacks.

As for viewing angles, this is a problem for virtually every laptop LCD in existence, not to mention a great number of desktop LCDs as well. Anything that uses a low-cost, low-power TN panel will perform poorly in this area. Again, it's not an Apple-specific issue, although I do question the choice of using a TN panel in the new 20" iMac.

One thing Apple does get wrong far more often than not is its factory-supplied ColorSync profiles. I have recent experience with the latest 15.4" MBPs and 20" iMacs. Both have displays that look horrible out of the box. The MBP is way too yellow/green, and the gamma correction on the 20" iMac is so bad that it completely washes out the midtones and crushes the brights into oblivion. Since I imagine very few people ever bother with calibration, Apple is doing a real disservice to its customers by not paying more attention to this detail.

In short, perfect display technology doesn't exist yet. Back in the CRT days, we all complained about geometry, convergence, and focus issues. Now it's color shifts, backlight bleed, and uneven illumination.

 

[daneoni]

It's the latter. LCD technology is far from perfect. For example, the ACDs use S-IPS panels. While S-IPS technology is known for its excellent color reproduction and wide viewing angles, it is also known for its backlight bleed, purple blacks, and glittery anti-glare coating. LG Philips is to blame here, so even non-Apple monitors that utilize these panels will suffer the same drawbacks.

As for viewing angles, this is a problem for virtually every laptop LCD in existence, not to mention a great number of desktop LCDs as well. Anything that uses a low-cost, low-power TN panel will perform poorly in this area. Again, it's not an Apple-specific issue, although I do question the choice of using a TN panel in the new 20" iMac.

One thing Apple does get wrong far more often than not is its factory-supplied ColorSync profiles. I have recent experience with the latest 15.4" MBPs and 20" iMacs. Both have displays that look horrible out of the box. The MBP is way too yellow/green, and the gamma correction on the 20" iMac is so bad that it completely washes out the midtones and crushes the brights into oblivion. Since I imagine very few people ever bother with calibration, Apple is doing a real disservice to its customers by not paying more attention to this detail.

In short, perfect display technology doesn't exist yet. Back in the CRT days, we all complained about geometry, convergence, and focus issues. Now it's color shifts, backlight bleed, and uneven illumination.

Good points