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spinedoc77

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Well this is interesting: http://www.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7-bootloader-lock-explained-you-might-not-get-aosp-after-all/

Nothing new to use AT&T and Verizon users, but Tmobile has always had an open bootloader on their devices. Now Tmobile and Sprint seem to be locking down their phones as well, starting with the S7/edge. From what I understand the international/Canadian versions still have open bootloaders. Ostensibly this is because Samsung wants to keep Samsung Pay secure, which probably means every single phone of theirs will be bootloader locked.

It doesn't mean a root won't be released, but it will have to rely on an exploit. That is much more difficult as evidenced by the lack of any sort of root on the AT&T Note 5.

Definitely a sad day as us techies see our options dwindle. I had high hopes of buying a Note 6 on Tmobile and using it on AT&T, but those hopes are dashed now.
 

Surf Donkey

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Well that was unexpected for the SD chips...... I only have one question Samsung:

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Meanwhile, Chainfire just released root for Android N :):D:)
 

Tig Bitties

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No root = no buy for me :( I know guys like me make up less than 1% of Samsung's sales. But I have principles, and can't support locked bootloaders, one of the main reasons I went to T-Mobile, was because they were the last U.S. carrier to not lock down their phones so bad like the Nazi's ATT and Verizon. And Sprint LOL they just suck.

And now the S7 is locked down even on T-Mobile, which is a big shocker, which to me means, that's it for Samsung, locked down from hear on out.

Android is meant to be rooted, for AdAway, and custom kernels for significantly better battery life, and a laundry list of features that root opens up.

Well, I guess it's the Nexus line only for me moving forward then.
 

Surf Donkey

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No root = no buy for me :( I know guys like me make up less than 1% of Samsung's sales. But I have principles, and can't support locked bootloaders, one of the main reasons I went to T-Mobile, was because they were the last U.S. carrier to not lock down their phones so bad like the Nazi's ATT and Verizon. And Sprint LOL they just suck.

And now the S7 is locked down even on T-Mobile, which is a big shocker, which to me means, that's it for Samsung, locked down from hear on out.

Android is meant to be rooted, for AdAway, and custom kernels for significantly better battery life, and a laundry list of features that root opens up.

Well, I guess it's the Nexus line only for me moving forward then.

Honestly I don't even root for that much these days, I could go without it (but for sure like my options). I totally can understand why the banks make Google block AP when rooted. So be it.

But not being able to unlock the bootloader is something I would never support with my wallet. If I wanted a phone that locked down phone, I'd just go back to Apple. It is the main benefit of Android (IMHO).
 

TheBigKing

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Lg can gain some people to buy their g5 if their bootloader it's open lg needs to thinks this it's a good move
 

Surf Donkey

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I wouldn't trust that guy as far as I could throw him. He just spews stuff on twitter that he thinks people want to hear, so he can be like the cool dad. Case in point, his response to binge on. Plus just look at the way he dresses.
 
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gotluck

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Honestly I don't even root for that much these days, I could go without it (but for sure like my options). I totally can understand why the banks make Google block AP when rooted. So be it.

But not being able to unlock the bootloader is something I would never support with my wallet. If I wanted a phone that locked down phone, I'd just go back to Apple. It is the main benefit of Android (IMHO).

agreed, main benefit of android for me is freedom. if you dont like something you can change it. if you dont like an update, you can downgrade. if your device is obsolete, you can go find a rom to breathe new life into it

I wish android pay / samsung pay worked in a manner similar to apple pay, where having root is irrelevant and not a security risk for the service. Apple really did jailbreakers a solid (im sure it was not intentional :p) with the way they designed apple pay to be completely separate from the system. Google tried to do the same secure enclave method with the old version of android pay, but getting all OEM's & carriers to include the chip was not possible it seems(that was during the time of isis pay and whatever verizon pay service they wanted to launch).
 
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spinedoc77

macrumors G4
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I'd ditch Samsung as well, but don't think any phone currently released even holds a candle to the Note series. Sucks, but I'm stuck with them.
 
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