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morty192

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Is this highly probably that we won't see an iMac hardware refresh with Sandy Bridge before Lion or is it more than likely that the new hardware will be released before the OS?
 
We don't even know when Lion is coming. We will most likely see new iMacs in Q2 2011 (March-May) but Lion is still a mystery. It could well be into autumn before it's released
 
Snow leopard was delayed too, it all depends on what bugs they find from now until then and if programmers have to be reassigned to more pressing matters such as iOS or whatever else may be planned we don't know about.
 
i would not wait for Lion , upgrade disc's are usually cheap , snow leopard can be had for £25 so my guess is Lion will not be more expensive , and i guess further that apple will make sure all intel Mac's are upgradeable to Lion too, so Lion should be the least of your worries
and dont bother to much about sandy bridge , the iMac's at the moment without sandy bridge are usable too ,
and my guess is not many will notice the difference of a i5 and the eventually coming i5 with sandy bridge

from wiki :For reference only, the Core i5 2300 engineering sample is up to 17% faster than a Core i5 760 (both are 2.8GHz) in 64-bit benchmarks


means the i3 sandy bridge model if it happens will be about as fast as the i5 now and the i5 sandy bridge will be about as fast as the i7 is now , so in order to see a real difference you need to settle for the i7 sandy bridge with a ssd to get a real performance plus over current models

i am anyway careful when it comes to new technologies , and i was never a fan of onboard graphics and sandy bridge will offer the graphics even integrated into the processor ..for me sandy bridge is to many components in one thing and i would wait a couple generations before i would jump on that
 
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i would not wait for Lion , upgrade disc's are usually cheap , snow leopard can be had for £25 so my guess is Lion will not be more expensive

Snow Leopard was just Leopard with some internal tweaks, no new features really. Other updates have been 129$, not 29$.

i am anyway careful when it comes to new technologies , and i was never a fan of onboard graphics and sandy bridge will offer the graphics even integrated into the processor ..for me sandy bridge is to many components in one thing and i would wait a couple generations before i would jump on that

The current iMac have an IGP integrated to the CPU as well but Apple uses discrete GPU instead.
 
I was never a fan of integrated graphics but that's because they usually were only 12MB of shared video ram. Now they're getting much better and can handle the demands thrown at them.
 
I was never a fan of integrated graphics but that's because they usually were only 12MB of shared video ram. Now they're getting much better and can handle the demands thrown at them.
Yes but as Hellhammer says I expect to see a GPU in the iMac as well I seriously doubt with the arrival of Steam etc.... iMac will lose the 1GB standalone GPU.
 
Snow leopard wasn't too much different from leopard. It cost only 29 dollars for one user and 49 dollars for 5 macs. Mac OS lion could cost 129 dollars to upgrade. It won't be cheap this time around. I expect around 79 dollars to upgrade.
 
Does Apple usually allow buyers of new Macs to upgrade for free if they buy a computer within x number of days of the new OS release (similar to the Windows 7 release)? I'm wanting to buy my first Mac soon, but if I can get a. a better/more recently updated i3 iMac (~July 2011), b. Snow Leopard preinstalled, and c. a free (or cheaper) upgrade to Lion, I would be more apt to waiting it out
 
Does Apple usually allow buyers of new Macs to upgrade for free if they buy a computer within x number of days of the new OS release (similar to the Windows 7 release)? I'm wanting to buy my first Mac soon, but if I can get a. a better/more recently updated i3 iMac (~July 2011), b. Snow Leopard preinstalled, and c. a free (or cheaper) upgrade to Lion, I would be more apt to waiting it out

If I recall I think it was either 15 or 30 days they allow a free upgrade.
 
Does Apple usually allow buyers of new Macs to upgrade for free if they buy a computer within x number of days of the new OS release (similar to the Windows 7 release)? I'm wanting to buy my first Mac soon, but if I can get a. a better/more recently updated i3 iMac (~July 2011), b. Snow Leopard preinstalled, and c. a free (or cheaper) upgrade to Lion, I would be more apt to waiting it out

it should be sooner than July from what I am being told by the people on this forum. :)
 
Yes but as Hellhammer says I expect to see a GPU in the iMac as well I seriously doubt with the arrival of Steam etc.... iMac will lose the 1GB standalone GPU.


What? Half your post does not make any sense.

As for the iMac losing the 1GB Radeon 5750.... where exactly did you get this piece of misinformation?
 
The summer to Apple means end of August, early September.

iMacs are due for an update in the spring and will arrive ahead of Lion.
 
What? Half your post does not make any sense.

As for the iMac losing the 1GB Radeon 5750.... where exactly did you get this piece of misinformation?

sorry mate I was only referring to the poster's comment about integrated graphics I was only trying to suggest that, with the arrival of major games to mac via the steam platform, apple will be taking graphic performance seriously. Sorry for the confusion and I was not suggesting that I had heard that piece of information.
 
Does Apple usually allow buyers of new Macs to upgrade for free if they buy a computer within x number of days of the new OS release (similar to the Windows 7 release)? I'm wanting to buy my first Mac soon, but if I can get a. a better/more recently updated i3 iMac (~July 2011), b. Snow Leopard preinstalled, and c. a free (or cheaper) upgrade to Lion, I would be more apt to waiting it out

There is up-to-date promo which gives you the upgrade for 10$. There is no specific timeframe though I think. With Snow Leopard, all Macs bought on June 8th or after were eligible for the cheaper upgrade.
 
The summer to Apple means end of August, early September.

iMacs are due for an update in the spring and will arrive ahead of Lion.
I reckon we'll see an iMac update in spring and a solo release for Lion in late summer. Sort of along the lines of roaring back to uni.
 
iPhone collector that's what I was worried about however, the more I think about the more I realize that mite actually hinder apple's bottom line somewhat as people like me who are looking to invest in an iMac are holding off for the sandy bridge refresh. This idea of no refresh until 12-13months will surly hit mac sales and considering this is supposed to be the year of the mac it would not surprise me and I am hoping that they will release an iMac within the next 12 weeks (before May) and then maybe around October time a slightly faster model will hit?
 
I'd say we see an iMac refresh before we see Lion. Lion is likely to be released in the last quarter of the year (Sept, Oct, Nov, or Dec). I expect a refresh sometime this summer.
 
Apple won't hold back hardware when they could make an extra $29 off buyers for a OS update!

But in relation to the original post, i'd actually be surprised to see the Sandy Bridge scheme implemented this year.
 
iPhone collector that's what I was worried about however, the more I think about the more I realize that mite actually hinder apple's bottom line somewhat as people like me who are looking to invest in an iMac are holding off for the sandy bridge refresh. This idea of no refresh until 12-13months will surly hit mac sales and considering this is supposed to be the year of the mac it would not surprise me and I am hoping that they will release an iMac within the next 12 weeks (before May) and then maybe around October time a slightly faster model will hit?


I think you're worrying about seeing a refresh too much. Apple has mentioned Lion once publicly, and that was during the MacBook Air announcement. Since then the only piece of information we have gotten about Lion is in the beta release of the Mac App Store. I don't think we're going to see any additional news about Lion until June when it's time for WWDC, which is the only known logical timeframe that Apple would announce any news about OS X. But between now and then it's all rumor and speculation.

As far as refreshing the iMac, I think we're going to see it during the spring (mid-March to late May). It will more than likely implement Sandy Bridge. I highly doubt that Apple will update the iMac in Q4. So if you're waiting for the next update like I am, just jump in at the expected update in the spring.
 
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The current iMac have an IGP integrated to the CPU as well but Apple uses discrete GPU instead.

Clarify please. All current iMacs have ATI/AMD discrete GPUs started at the 4670 at the low end. What do you mean by the first part of your statement?

Cheers,
 
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