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ag29

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Oct 7, 2014
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What's worse? That att is charging $825.99 for an off contract note 4 or that verizon's release date is a whole week later than all other carriers?
 

Fanaticalism

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Apr 16, 2013
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Someone has to pay for the all the preinstalled apps, and that someone is us. :p

What's unreal, is that is the cost for next as well. I'd rather leave to VZW than pay that asinine price.

What's interesting is I had a chat with care and their reasoning was the quality of their network is worth the added cost. When I told them VZW has the best coverage in the country and their devices are unlocked, she just regurgitated the same spiel.

"it's only $5 more, our network is worth it!"
 
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spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
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Call retention and complain. I called retention and told them I didn't appreciate being gouged and I was going to take my business to T-Mobile. They gave me a $180 credit to offset the increased price.

I sometimes get tempted by Verizon, but it just majorly irks me that people know when I'm on the line and get that busy signal and there is no way to disable it.

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Someone has to pay for the all the preinstalled apps, and that someone is us. :p

What's unreal, is that is the cost for next as well. I'd rather leave to VZW than pay that asinine price.

What's interesting is I had a chat with care and their reasoning was the quality of their network is worth the added cost. When I told them VZW has the best coverage in the country and their devices are unlocked, she just regurgitated the same spiel.

"it's only $5 more, our network is worth it!"

I don't understand why people think Next is expensive, it's basically interest free financing. You get the $25/month credit to offset the discount you would get on a contract. It ends up being virtually the same thing but IMO without the hassle of having to sell your phone every year and also gives you a new phone every year instead of every 2. It's just simple math.
 

Ccrew

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Feb 28, 2011
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I don't understand why people think Next is expensive, it's basically interest free financing. You get the $25/month credit to offset the discount you would get on a contract. It ends up being virtually the same thing but IMO without the hassle of having to sell your phone every year and also gives you a new phone every year instead of every 2. It's just simple math.

I think it's ridiculous personally because if I bring my own device I get no discount. and that $25 isn't $25 unless you have a More Everything plan with at least 10gb of data.

5 lines for me with my own hardware and 30gb shared: $330 before taxes
5 lines for me with Edge devices and 30gb shared data: $330 before taxes (given most phones are around $25)
Current 5 lines, 1400 minutes Friends and Family w/unlimited data $298 after taxes.

So while you (and Verizon) can argue that I'm getting the phones for free, at the end of the day the bottom line is the same as if I didn't have them. And technically those Edge phones are a credit installment account, have no idea if they report to the bureaus, but the do carry either $2k or $4k credit limits.
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
11,488
5,413
I think it's ridiculous personally because if I bring my own device I get no discount. and that $25 isn't $25 unless you have a More Everything plan with at least 10gb of data.

5 lines for me with my own hardware and 30gb shared: $330 before taxes
5 lines for me with Edge devices and 30gb shared data: $330 before taxes (given most phones are around $25)
Current 5 lines, 1400 minutes Friends and Family w/unlimited data $298 after taxes.

So while you (and Verizon) can argue that I'm getting the phones for free, at the end of the day the bottom line is the same as if I didn't have them. And technically those Edge phones are a credit installment account, have no idea if they report to the bureaus, but the do carry either $2k or $4k credit limits.

Not sure which plans those are, maybe Verizon? On ATT you get a $25 credit if you bring your own phone, not just on the Next program. $25 is on the 10gb and up mobile share plans. 5 lines with 10gb data shared is $300. $330 would get you 5 lines with 30gb shared.

But I'm not sure if you were agreeing, disagreeing or just pontificating and I read your post a couple of times. :D
 

Ccrew

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Feb 28, 2011
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But I'm not sure if you were agreeing, disagreeing or just pontificating and I read your post a couple of times. :D

More Everything/Edge = Verizon.

Based on the discussion I had with ATT TIt was dead comparable to the Verizon plan. Expectation is you're essentially buying phones to get that discount. Once the term is up you have to rebuy to keep it.
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
11,488
5,413
More Everything/Edge = Verizon.

Based on the discussion I had with ATT TIt was dead comparable to the Verizon plan. Expectation is you're essentially buying phones to get that discount. Once the term is up you have to rebuy to keep it.

What was dead?
 

rockitdog

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Mar 25, 2013
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Verizon's Edge prices are more compared to AT&T because I believe AT&T allows you to spread out the payments over 20 months vs 24 mos with AT&T. AT&T's prices get even higher if you choose to do their Next 18 plan.
 

Fanaticalism

macrumors 6502a
Apr 16, 2013
908
158
Call retention and complain. I called retention and told them I didn't appreciate being gouged and I was going to take my business to T-Mobile. They gave me a $180 credit to offset the increased price.

I sometimes get tempted by Verizon, but it just majorly irks me that people know when I'm on the line and get that busy signal and there is no way to disable it.

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I don't understand why people think Next is expensive, it's basically interest free financing. You get the $25/month credit to offset the discount you would get on a contract. It ends up being virtually the same thing but IMO without the hassle of having to sell your phone every year and also gives you a new phone every year instead of every 2. It's just simple math.

Completely missed my point. I was referring to the difference in price for the same device on ATT compared to every other carrier
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
11,488
5,413
Completely missed my point. I was referring to the difference in price for the same device on ATT compared to every other carrier

No I hear ya, that's why I offered a solution to call retention. I understand this is a piss poor solution and completely agree with you that there is NO reason other than pure gouging that the ATT Note 4 is higher in price.
 
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