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mikiee

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I am a brand new iPad user having recently bought an iPad 8. I discovered the "notes" app. My question concerns using the lock feature to secure the note. Are the contents in the note as secure as they would be if you downloaded a stand alone file encrypter such as Secure FileBox?
 

Beards

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Yeah just don’t use iCloud and make all your data available to spying in the first place. I don’t think that’s ad secure as anything on the device.
Doesn’t matter if it’s in iCloud or on your device.:-
If it’s in iCloud they will first need your Apple ID & Password followed by the password to your Notes files that are protected.
If it’s on your device they will first need your device password followed again with the password of your Notes files that are protected.
 

ericwn

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Doesn’t matter if it’s in iCloud or on your device.:-
If it’s in iCloud they will first need your Apple ID & Password followed by the password to your Notes files that are protected.
If it’s on your device they will first need your device password followed again with the password of your Notes files that are protected.
I don't think Apple turns over encrypted backup files to law enforcement and others. See:

"Over the last couple of years, Apple has been stern against iPhone unlock requests by U.S. law enforcement agencies. But the company has numerous times turned over suspects’ iCloud backups, giving up personal data such as iMessage chats and call logs.


In the first half of 2019 alone, authorities were able to obtain complete device backups of nearly 6,000 iCloud accounts. In addition to that, Apple reportedly turned over 14,000 accounts in response to secret U.S. intelligence court directives."

That may differ for Notes, but I wouldn't bet on it.
 
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Beards

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I don't think Apple turns over encrypted backup files to law enforcement and others. See:

"Over the last couple of years, Apple has been stern against iPhone unlock requests by U.S. law enforcement agencies. But the company has numerous times turned over suspects’ iCloud backups, giving up personal data such as iMessage chats and call logs.


In the first half of 2019 alone, authorities were able to obtain complete device backups of nearly 6,000 iCloud accounts. In addition to that, Apple reportedly turned over 14,000 accounts in response to secret U.S. intelligence court directives."

That may differ for Notes, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Totally agree with this.... This is why I mentioned the FBI in post 2 above.
 

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Have to say it....'Write down and save the password'! I say this because I vaguely remember a few years ago when there was an issue with passwords on the notes (from the cloud) app that drove people crazy. Myself included. If you ever have issues with notes be careful and remember that you DO have backups.
 

mikiee

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One other thing I noticed with this notes app, it seems that every note must have the same password. Am I correct. If not, how do I give another note a diff password?
 

Beards

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It is the App itself which generates a ‘general’ master password. It does not allow individual passwords.
It works using either FaceID, TouchID or by keyboard password.
To be honest in my opinion it would be a nightmare to store and remember a different password for each individual file, that and FaceID/TouchID would not work with different notes.
 

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It is the App itself which generates a ‘general’ master password. It does not allow individual passwords.
It works using either FaceID, TouchID or by keyboard password.
To be honest in my opinion it would be a nightmare to store and remember a different password for each individual file, that and FaceID/TouchID would not work with different notes.
Not sure of what you mean? I chose my own password and currently have two different passwords.
 

mikiee

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Not sure of what you mean? I chose my own password and currently have two different passwords.
So you're saying that any note that you create can have it's own unique PSW? If so, how do you do it? Any new note I create, when I go to PSW protect it, automatically uses the original PSW.
 

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So you're saying that any note that you create can have it's own unique PSW? If so, how do you do it? Any new note I create, when I go to PSW protect it, automatically uses the original PSW.
No,not really. Some time ago I had an issue where I had to re-install (I think) and create a new password. Ever since its allowed me to keep both.
 

Beards

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Not sure of what you mean? I chose my own password and currently have two different passwords.
I’m sorry but the Notes App will only use one master password. It is not designed to use more than one.
Please explain fully how you have managed to have two passwords?

Basically, are you saying you have one password for one note and another password for another note (all within the same Note App)..... If so then there is an error.

Again the Note App only allows one single master password.
 
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