i always wanted to lern objective c and cocoa because there are soem projects ive been interested in for quite sometime and they have been looking for new developers for some time. now my problem is just learning it and memorizing it. an example being the classes of objects. i just can't memorize it as many times as i read and write it down. im using a book (Learning Cocoa with Objective C 2nd Edition). im sure some of you developers have heard of it. do you have any suggestions on how to learn it i guess with out a book as much and in general how to memorize some of the functions of classes and objects. thanks thymac.