MP 1,1-5,1 OCLP Monterey, Airplay to ATV 4k 3d Gen not working

[flyproductions]

I have a newly acquired ATV 2022, running tvOS 16, which i want to use as an Airplay-target from a cMP 5,1, running 12.6.2 via OCLP. But it just doesn't work. ☹️

I can connect to the ATV just fine. But the options for choosing mirroring or extending screen are just not shown. Neither in control panel nor in menu bar's control center. And the TV's screen just goes black, neither showing the Mac's screen nor things pushed over to the side of it. So the TV's screen does not seem to work as any of mirror or extension.

And this is where i'm stuck. Does Airplay just not work with cMPs running Monterey or am i missing something? Any ideas?

I forgot: GPU of the Mac is a Radeon RX 570, if this is of any matter.

 

[h9826790]

I have a newly acquired ATV 2022, running tvOS 16, which i want to use as an Airplay-target from a cMP 5,1, running 12.6.2 via OCLP. But it just doesn't work. ☹️

I can connect to the ATV just fine. But the options for choosing mirroring or extending screen are just not shown. Neither in control panel nor in menu bar's control center. And the TV's screen just goes black, neither showing the Mac's screen nor things pushed over to the side of it. So the TV's screen does not seem to work as any of mirror or extension.

And this is where i'm stuck. Does Airplay just not work with cMPs running Monterey or am i missing something? Any ideas?

I forgot: GPU of the Mac is a Radeon RX 570, if this is of any matter.

AFAIK, it won't work, and no solution yet.

 

[flyproductions]

AFAIK, it won't work, and no solution yet.

Thanks! Sad that is! 😟

Solution so far is sideloading KODI (which was the reason to try this at all) directly to the ATV with a free developer account. Have to resign every 7 days, if i want to keep using it. But don't like to pay 100$ a year just to have "the right" to use things i own the way i want.

And i have not much hopes there will be a JB for the ATV 2022 some day soon. Not so easy even without USB. 😢

 

[h9826790]

For videos, it's possible to stream that to ATV, as long as both the mac and the ATV support that codec, and no transcoding in between. But you can't stream the desktop to ATV.

For desktop streaming, there are few other apps in macOS can do that. Some can stream to the ATV (e.g. AirParrot), some others may stream the desktop to the TV directly (if the TV supported, e.g. AirBeamTV).

 

[flyproductions]

For videos, it's possible to stream that to ATV, as long as both the mac and the ATV support that codec, and no transcoding in between. But you can't stream the desktop to ATV.

Desktop streaming is not required. Also i do not use KODI to stream downloaded content. So the codec-thing isn't that much of a problem to me.

The Problem is to get KODI streaming to the ATV at all. So i came across some app, LocalCast, which appears to be a possible solution. It claims to make the ATV available as a UPnP target. So KODI should be able to stream to it. So maybe i will give this a try.

 

[HDFan]

Is there a reason you don't use an Apple TV client such as Infuse or Plex via SMB assuming that you are just streaming media?

 

[flyproductions]

Is there a reason you don't use an Apple TV client such as Infuse or Plex via SMB assuming that you are just streaming media?

Yes. The reason is the xStream AddOn, which can find and stream almost anything that can be found anywhere on the net. „Not completely legal“ for the more recent stuff and more often than not not the best quality. But, if you are looking for "that particular movie" you have once seen years ago, it is absolutely priceless and unmatched.

 

[startergo]

I can Airplay directly to my Samsung TV in Monterey, but cannot Airplay to the ATV (latest). It shows black screen. Must be some other setting, which I am missing. This is on a hack not cMP.

 

[flyproductions]

I can Airplay directly to my Samsung TV in Monterey,...

One thing, i could try! Will give it a shot tomorrow. Thanks for the hint!
Does it mirror the desktop?

but cannot Airplay to the ATV (latest). It shows black screen.

Yes! That's exactly what i am experiencing. ...and no options to choose for mirroring or extending shown.

Must be some other setting, which I am missing. This is on a hack not cMP.

At least on the ATV, i think i went to all of the relevant settings.
As it is Monterey, Hack or cMP shouldn't make that much of a difference. It is not running natively anyway.

 

[startergo]

As far as Kodi on ATV I use singulous signing service (15$ a year).
Edit: I can Airplay from Monterey on a T2 MBP to the ATV. I can also airplay from my 2015 MBP running unsupported Ventura through OCLP to the ATV. So my guess is that when spoofing a T2 smbios of machines like iMacPro or MP7,1 the system expects a T2 chip and airplay does not work if it can't find it.

 

[flyproductions]

As far as Kodi on ATV I use singulous signing service (15$ a year).

Is it this thing which claims administrative rights to the box? 😱

It's not for the 15 or 25 bucks a year...but no f....ing way! I'd rather resign every 7 days for the rest of my life or pay four times the amount to Apple for a "real" dev account...

...than giving away complete control over some device in my home to just anybody.

Edit: I can Airplay from Monterey on a T2 MBP to the ATV. I can also airplay from my 2015 MBP running unsupported Ventura through OCLP to the ATV. So my guess is that when spoofing a T2 smbios of machines like iMacPro or MP7,1 the system expects a T2 chip and airplay does not work if it can't find it.

Hmmm, have to look over the settings of my last OCLP-build. But i doubt it has been set to any T2 thing but rather to the default which is "minimal spoofing" as far as i remember.

 

[flyproductions]

I can Airplay directly to my Samsung TV in Monterey,...

Also no for me! 😢

When i try to AirPlay to my TV, a TCL running android, Monterey shows "connected". Again without giving the choice to select between mirroring and extending the desktop. But on the TV-side it doesn't even launch the AirPin-app, which is instantly launched in the background, when mirroring an iPhone. Which works perfectly. To the TV as well as to the ATV.

 

[startergo]

...than giving away complete control over some device in my home to just anybody.

You lost me here. How are you giving control over your devices?

 

[flyproductions]

You lost me here. How are you giving control over your devices?

From the link, posted (if this is the "service" you use):

"We install KODI via Remote Device Management, that’s why we need you to install and trust our profile, to manage your device."

To my eyes more than just a bit shady!

At least they offer one whole day free trial! ...while anybody can install KODI absolutely for free with just their Apple ID to run at least seven days without any further hustles. 😂

 

[startergo]

From the link, posted (if this is the "service" you use):

"We install KODI via Remote Device Management, that’s why we need you to install and trust our profile, to manage your device."

To my eyes more than just a bit shady!

No such thing. You just sign the app then install it yourself through Device Configurator.

 

[flyproductions]

No such thing. You just sign the app then install it yourself through Device Configurator.

Do you have some link to this?

 

[startergo]

Do you have some link to this?

Signulous – Sign and Install Apps

www.signulous.com

Edit: PM sent

 

[flyproductions]

Signulous – Sign and Install Apps

www.signulous.com

Edit: PM sent

Thanks!

...but it's just not that much of a difference to what i have linked above. Basically it is making money out of developer accounts not even close to the way it is ment to be. And on the other hand, the stuff they get you to install on your device can contain whatever they want! You have absolutely no control over the source or any edits made on the way to your signed IPA.

Still i think this "business model" is shady to say the least. And if i intended to pay for sideloading apps, i'd allways prefer to go the little more expensive but fairely save "official" way of subscribing for a develper account with Apple myself. You get the stuff you install from it's original sources where you can decide about trustworthyness in any individual case yourself. And no one is involved in the signing process but Apple and you.

Edit: Did you check their website for any contact information or data of someone legally responsible? You'll find none! You will not even be able to find out who the domain is registered to. And i guess all this is for some very reason.

 

[startergo]

And on the other hand, the stuff they get you to install on your device can contain whatever they want! You have absolutely no control over the source or any edits made on the way to your signed IPA.

UDID registrations will actually deliver the certificates for you so you can sign the apps yourself. Of course you can do the same with a developer account for 99$ which is good for signing 100 devices. If you have 10 or more devices ( or friends) it is better to buy the developer account.

 

[flyproductions]

Of course you can do the same with a developer account for 99$ which is good for signing 100 devices.

If it's just for this one app on one device, i have no problem resigning every 7 days with just my Apple ID. A bit annoying, maybe. But it's a five minute process which is 100% free and i prefer it very much over supporting some at least legally doubtful way of making profit of nothing more than a payed dev account.