October 14. Excuse me, ladies and gentleman I must excuse myself.

[ntrigue]

I've never experienced this level of negativity on MacRumors.com and I am logging-off until at least Thursday. Perhaps, by that time, we will actually have legitimate opinions from those that have seen/used the new notebooks.

*Every port-related complaint can be addressed with the appropriate adapter. Ethernet to Firewire. IEEE1394 800 to 400. DisplayPort to DVI.
*Every glossy complaint can not be rationalized as NO ONE here has sat in front of these notebooks. I bought my MBA anyway and it doesn't bother me one bit. I use my desktop with 24" IPS for 'work.'
*There has ALWAYS been immediate negative feedback on Apple releases. From the small fraction of the general public that HATE the release a large number of them buy anyway.
*Students, you can't afford the new price-point? You mean even suckling off your governments teet for the last five years. Avert your glance from the MB Pro, it is not yours. The MB was designed with you in mind. Get a job on salary and buy yourself the best.
*Speak with your wallet. If after getting hands-on at Apple you aren't in love then don't buy. The (checkbook) pen is mightier than the sword.
*Please leave EPIC FAIL on your W.o.W. forums. We speak as adults here.

Best Regards,

ntrigue

 

[belvdr]

*Every glossy complaint can not be rationalized as NO ONE here has sat in front of these notebooks. I bought my MBA anyway and it doesn't bother me one bit. I use my desktop with 24" IPS for 'work.'

Sorry, but I have a laptop with a glossy screen. Looks sharp most of the time, but in certain conditions, I get all sorts of reflections. Now, considering all of the glossy screens have this issue, why should Apple be any different?

In any case, if you want to excuse yourself, go ahead. Not sure why an announcement was needed.

 

[7on]

Sorry, but I have a laptop with a glossy screen. Looks sharp most of the time, but in certain conditions, I get all sorts of reflections. Now, considering all of the glossy screens have this issue, why should Apple be any different?

In any case, if you want to excuse yourself, go ahead. Not sure why an announcement was needed.

Because they're glass? And there might be the possibility of a difference between plastic and glass?

Anyway - What's the big deal? Before LCDs we had CRTs and guess what? They were glass and glossy. In fact, a lot of pros wouldn't switch to LCDs and used behemoth 24" CRTs and glass displays.

If you're going to use a MB/p for color correction then buy a Spyder2 and have it calibrate for you. It'll still be just as accurate. AND if you switch to Windows... good luck. I've never had Windows manage color as well as a Macintosh. Opening the same doc in different apps produces different colors and their's no system level color calibration (Unless Vista supports ICC now).

 

[belvdr]

Because they're glass? And there might be the possibility of a difference between plastic and glass?

Good point, but...

Anyway - What's the big deal? Before LCDs we had CRTs and guess what? They were glass and glossy. In fact, a lot of pros wouldn't switch to LCDs and used behemoth 24" CRTs and glass displays.

Okay, so if the CRTs, being glass, had a reflection, then you've answered your first question yourself. They both have reflections.

That said, I never packed my CRT around with me for use in airports, home, car, etc. These are mobile displays, not something you just set on a desk. Now, if I crank my LCD brightness up, the problem goes away, but then it kills my battery life.

 

[Vivid.Inferno]

*Students, you can't afford the new price-point? You mean even suckling off your governments teet for the last five years. Avert your glance from the MB Pro, it is not yours. The MB was designed with you in mind. Get a job on salary and buy yourself the best.

Yeah not so much. I got no government help, and no parental help. I need a high end laptop that will last me years. Oh btw, I'm a full time student, working 35-40 hours a week. jack@$$

 

[ChrisA]

Anyway - What's the big deal? Before LCDs we had CRTs and guess what? They were glass and glossy. In fact, a lot of pros wouldn't switch to LCDs and used behemoth 24" CRTs and glass displays.

Those CRTs many times had very expensive anti-reflection coatings. They were glass but NOT "glossy".

Have you seen a good high end photographic filter? They are glass. A good way to tell a cheap one from a good on is to stand with your back to a light and hold the filter in front of you and look to see if the light shows in the reflection. Cheap ones are mirror-like good filters are very good, but they cost a bit to make. Apple went cheap. They used to make equipment for creative professionals but now they see more money in people who use computers as entertainment consoles.

Again the problem for photographers is NOT, repeat NOT that glare makes the screen hard to read. You CAN solve that problem by moving the display. The problem is that the glossy screen exaggerate color contrast. The color is not accurate.

It is the same with those consumer type speakers that boost the bass way up and make it "boom". Some people like the exaggerate bass but could you imagine a recording engineer working with those speakers in a studio? What has happened is that Apple has found out (1) boomy speakers are cheap to make and (2) there are more kids who play music than there are recording engineers who record it. They did the math and followed the numbers.