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drmeatball

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Original poster
Aug 3, 2019
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Ellicott City, MD
Not trying to downgrade from Catalina to Mojave, I actually like Catalina. I just want to do a fresh reinstall of Catalina through Internet Recovery.

I've already done all of the disabling secure boot nonsense, everything has been working fine for months. Upgrade from Mojave to Catalina was flawless. EGPU has been flawless. A++ all around. Until now.

I don't use the internal SSD (256GB), I only external SSD storage through USB C or TB3 enclosures (~10TB). Unplugged all the enclosures so I'm not losing any data. It doesn't matter in this scenario, but I also have Time Machine backups. Everything is fine there.

I've discovered Command/Option/Shift/R no longer works. Gives a -1008f error message (which doesn't exist in Apple Support). No, this is not an iCloud-account-locked error as some google makes you think (I already removed the Mini before I attempted any of this). No, this is not a wifi or ethernet issue, again, no thanks google/reddit (I went straight ethernet into the router just in case, same error). I don't know what the error is, but it means you will no longer ever get to load Internet Recovery again if you did an upgrade to Catalina. I asked a friend with an iMac Pro also on Catalina to see if they could get into Internet Recovery, same error for them.

I only have a sample size of 2, but try it yourself, if you're on Catalina on a T2 Mac that started life on Mojave, you can no longer get into Internet Recovery to reinstall your system should/when something eventually borks. Not regular on the hard disk recovery, the downloaded on the fly Internet Recovery. CMD OPT SHFT R, not CMD R.

Essentially, if your drive ever dies or gets corrupt enough you need to reformat/reinstall, you're SOL.

Fortunately I spent the $$$ on AppleCare, so if I can't brute force my way out of this mess I'm taking that route, but seriously, WTF Apple? This doesn't feel like planned obsolescence, this feels like a pretty major sloppy oversight not taken into consideration.

Getting a little nervous now too. The original 10.15 USB stick I made (just for paranoia sake, I used to work in IT (and was a Boy Scout) so Be Prepared is second nature) doesn't work. USB led light accesses, but just sits on the Apple logo for 10+minutes. Currently downloading and making a new 10.15.2/current USB stick, not sure what else I can do if that doesn't work.

Very frustrated atm. Had a completely unrelated hard freeze on my iPhone when pulled off the charger this morning, had to go into DFU and reset everything. I've spent way too much time today trying to troubleshoot Apple product issues instead of actual work.
 

chrfr

macrumors G5
Jul 11, 2009
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I've discovered Command/Option/Shift/R no longer works. Gives a -1008f error message (which doesn't exist in Apple Support).
Use command-option-R (no shift) to get the latest OS from internet recovery. If you want Catalina, that's what that's for.
Command-option-shift-R (which would reinstall the original OS which came with your computer, not the newest) may require you to lower boot security levels to successfully start up and install.
 

MBPmac

macrumors newbie
Mar 1, 2019
13
2
Not trying to downgrade from Catalina to Mojave, I actually like Catalina. I just want to do a fresh reinstall of Catalina through Internet Recovery.

I've already done all of the disabling secure boot nonsense, everything has been working fine for months. Upgrade from Mojave to Catalina was flawless. EGPU has been flawless. A++ all around. Until now.

I don't use the internal SSD (256GB), I only external SSD storage through USB C or TB3 enclosures (~10TB). Unplugged all the enclosures so I'm not losing any data. It doesn't matter in this scenario, but I also have Time Machine backups. Everything is fine there.

I've discovered Command/Option/Shift/R no longer works. Gives a -1008f error message (which doesn't exist in Apple Support). No, this is not an iCloud-account-locked error as some google makes you think (I already removed the Mini before I attempted any of this). No, this is not a wifi or ethernet issue, again, no thanks google/reddit (I went straight ethernet into the router just in case, same error). I don't know what the error is, but it means you will no longer ever get to load Internet Recovery again if you did an upgrade to Catalina. I asked a friend with an iMac Pro also on Catalina to see if they could get into Internet Recovery, same error for them.

I only have a sample size of 2, but try it yourself, if you're on Catalina on a T2 Mac that started life on Mojave, you can no longer get into Internet Recovery to reinstall your system should/when something eventually borks. Not regular on the hard disk recovery, the downloaded on the fly Internet Recovery. CMD OPT SHFT R, not CMD R.

Essentially, if your drive ever dies or gets corrupt enough you need to reformat/reinstall, you're SOL.

Fortunately I spent the $$$ on AppleCare, so if I can't brute force my way out of this mess I'm taking that route, but seriously, WTF Apple? This doesn't feel like planned obsolescence, this feels like a pretty major sloppy oversight not taken into consideration.

Getting a little nervous now too. The original 10.15 USB stick I made (just for paranoia sake, I used to work in IT (and was a Boy Scout) so Be Prepared is second nature) doesn't work. USB led light accesses, but just sits on the Apple logo for 10+minutes. Currently downloading and making a new 10.15.2/current USB stick, not sure what else I can do if that doesn't work.

Very frustrated atm. Had a completely unrelated hard freeze on my iPhone when pulled off the charger this morning, had to go into DFU and reset everything. I've spent way too much time today trying to troubleshoot Apple product issues instead of actual work.

Had problems doing a fresh install of 10.15.2 after trying out the .3 beta. Could not get my bootable usb stick to work, neither would an internet recovery. Vague error messages... However, after resetting nvram it did work. Apparently something went awry with the discs in this ram memory? Perhaps worth a try, I found the hint after an extensive search, after thinking I was SOL.
Note: this was for a MacBook Pro 2018 with T2 and touchbar.
 
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