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marosa32

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Hello! I installed an SSD in a 2006 24" iMac, when I tried to install the operating system with bootable USB 2.0 it said it took 2 hours and 30 minutes. Is this normal? I don't remember it taking that long with the old HDD. The SSD is crucial 500gb from the official page but I did put a 3.5 adapter on it, could that adapter slow it down or is it normal for it to take so long? Any advice is welcome.

Adapter: https://www.ifixit.com/products/ifi...pUXHiopfmwiLw7mKhG0ok7ApbaXfMzXDFZyaQ#reviews but I bought it from Ali (the same model)

Thanks.
Best regards.
 

Amethyst1

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The adapter could theoretically be at fault but it's passive (no electronics of its own). What Crucial SSD is it? Did the installation actually take that long? If the install has completed, does the system react slowly or strangely in any way?
 

Bigwaff

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Though USB 2.0 is
I tried to install the operating system with bootable USB 2.0 it said it took 2 hours and 30 minutes. Is this normal?
What is the brand and specs of ext bootable USB 2.0 device? Attached directly to iMac or use a USB cable? Verified ext device is actually connecting at USB 2.0 speeds?
 

marosa32

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The adapter could theoretically be at fault but it's passive (no electronics of its own). What Crucial SSD is it? Did the installation actually take that long? If the install has completed, does the system react slowly or strangely in any way?
Thank you very much for the quick response. The SSD is SSD Crucial BX500 500 GB 3D NAND SATA 2,5. I cancelled the installation, I didn't have that time at the time. I have to try it again.
 

marosa32

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Though USB 2.0 is

What is the brand and specs of ext bootable USB 2.0 device? Attached directly to iMac or use a USB cable? Verified ext device is actually connecting at USB 2.0 speeds?
Thank you very much for the quick response. The USB is a Sandisk cruzer blade 8gb. Directly to the iMac. How can I do that? I assumed it would go at that speed because those are the characteristics of that USB if I'm not mistaken. I used the same one to do a clean install over a year ago but on the HDD, but I don't remember it taking that long, so I was surprised.
 

Amethyst1

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The SSD is SSD Crucial BX500 500 GB 3D NAND SATA 2,5.
I have the same SSD in a 2007 MacBook Pro. It is a DRAM-less drive, negatively affecting random writes which is what happens when installing OS X. Still, I would try finishing the install to see if it’s really that slow.

How can I do that?
After booting up from the USB, exit the Installer, click Utilities > System Information and check the USB section on the SanDisk.
 
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DeltaMac

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The install time is an estimate, which can often change significantly during the install. You may find it does not, in the end, take that amount of time.
It can be interesting if you could post the actual time the install takes.
(An older thumb drive can get really slow, particularly if it has been erased several times. I almost never use those for OS installs now, and rely on several USB external enclosures with NMVE flash sticks, often with multiple bootable partitions on each. Works well for me.
 

marosa32

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I have the same SSD in a 2007 MacBook Pro and it works fine. That being said, the BX500 is a DRAM-less drive which negatively affects random writes which is what happens when installing OS X — lots of files get extracted from packages. Still, I would try finishing the install to see if it’s really that slow.


After booting up from the USB, exit the Installer, click Utilities > System Information and check the USB section on the SanDisk.
Thanks for the tips. I'll do it next time and upload photos.
 

marosa32

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The install time is an estimate, which can often change significantly during the install. You may find it does not, in the end, take that amount of time.
It can be interesting if you could post the actual time the install takes.
(An older thumb drive can get really slow, particularly if it has been erased several times. I almost never use those for OS installs now, and rely on several USB external enclosures with NMVE flash sticks, often with multiple bootable partitions on each. Works well for me.
Thanks for trying to help me. I'll try to leave it installing to see if the process finishes and it doesn't take that long. I did format it for the first time from disk utilities using the installer so it would detect it because it was completely new and the first time it was being used. I will upload photos.
 

Siliconguy

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For what it's worth I had a USB 2 PC that occasionally would decide that a USB 2 drive was a USB 1 drive. The early USB 2 systems were not all that reliable.

For that matter I had a 2014 min (USB 3) that decided the USB 3 stick was really USB 2 while reinstalling Monterey after breaking the Fusion Drive. The install took hours, but it worked fine afterwards.
 

marosa32

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Hello! I have already managed to install it. I thought of it through the backup of Carbon copy cloner on an external ssd disk. Start from that external SSD and download the installer. Once that is done, look for the InstallESD.dmg package, click on it and a temporary drive with the files will open. Click on the installer, it will start and you select the disk where I want to install it, it will restart. It takes less than 20 minutes to complete the installation and you should already have it on your new SSD. In case someone has the same problem and it works for them.

BTW, the only thing that happened to me when I installed it a while ago (on the HDD) and now with the file from the Apple website (with another installer). Is when you go to more system information, the model or year does not appear (next to the model icon). And when you go to the screen it says 21.9" (that model does not exist) when it should be 24". If anyone knows how to fix it, please let me know haha just curious. It works much faster with the change from HDD to SSD.

Thanks to everyone for trying to help me and for your advice. Have a nice weekend. Best regards :)
 

Nguyen Duc Hieu

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My first installation of Mac OS Monterey on my iMac 2009 with upgraded GPU Firepro HD6100 took the whole night, after the whole day of failure.
It was not the read-writing speed that took time.
It was the initial configuration of the Mac OS.
Luckily I felt asleep after 1 hour 30 mins watching the meaningless Apple icon displayed on the screen.
When I woke up in the morning, it was all set, and the iMac rebooted to desktop in less than a minute.
 

Noot

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The Crucial BX500 is actually a budget ssd which is very slow... Comparable to the QVO series of Samsung.
It is a drive with no dram cache, QLC nand drive. When you fill up the SLC cache, the write speeds collapse.
 

marosa32

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Hello! I attach the photos of what I told you. It's an iMac late 2006 24". When you go to more system information, the model or year does not appear (next to the model icon). And when you go to the screen it says 21.9" (that model does not exist) when it should be 24". If anyone knows how to fix it, please let me know haha just curious.
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Diseño sin título.png
 

DeltaMac

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Click on "Informe del systema..."
Show a screen shot of the first window, showing the hardware details (Hardware Overview)
2nd line "Model Identifier" should be "iMac6,1"

Are you the original purchaser (and have had it since new?)

I would probably try replacing the PRAM battery. If original, nearly 20 years old, it is likely dead, which can affect how the hardware configures itself at boot
 

marosa32

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Click on "Informe del systema..."
Show a screen shot of the first window, showing the hardware details (Hardware Overview)
2nd line "Model Identifier" should be "iMac6,1"

Are you the original purchaser (and have had it since new?)

I would probably try replacing the PRAM battery. If original, nearly 20 years old, it is likely dead, which can affect how the hardware configures itself at boot
Thanks for the quick reply. Yes, where you say it shows iMac 6.1 and the PRAM battery I changed too because I thought the same thing (before installing the SSD) because it was already happening with the HDD, but it seems that it has nothing to do with it.

I'm not the original buyer. It did show it before (because there were photos in the ad) but when the system was reinstalled it always showed up like that.
 
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