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Galacticos

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Seeing as a lot of people are reporting iOS performance improvements when they get rid of or reinstall an app what are the thoughts on an option to delete all apps and data, and reinstall them without having to restore the phone?
Not a particular issue for me but seems to be a few posts about this
 

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Seeing as a lot of people are reporting iOS performance improvements when they get rid of or reinstall an app what are the thoughts on an option to delete all apps and data, and reinstall them without having to restore the phone?
Not a particular issue for me but seems to be a few posts about this

It's already there. It's called "set up as new".
 

Galacticos

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and how exactly would our thoughts matter?

i can't offer insight into whether your thoughts matter to you or not.
It's just a question to gauge the effectiveness on deleting and reinstalling apps and it's troubleshooting effect, and whether that effect is big enough to justify an included method for that on a large scale.
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It's already there. It's called "set up as new".
A method for doing this without restoring or setting up the phone as new


Judging by the response so far, I'd say not!
 

electronicsguy

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i can't offer insight into whether your thoughts matter to you or not.
It's just a question to gauge the effectiveness on deleting and reinstalling apps and it's troubleshooting effect, and whether that effect is big enough to justify an included method for that on a large scale.
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A method for doing this without restoring or setting up the phone as new


Judging by the response so far, I'd say not!

can you offer your "expert" insights on whose thoughts will help you "gauge" the "effectiveness" of something which you cannot control?
 

Galacticos

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i can't offer insight into whether your thoughts matter to you or not.
It's just a question to gauge the effectiveness on deleting and reinstalling apps and it's troubleshooting effect, and whether that effect is big enough to justify an included method for that on a large scale.
[doublepost=1460621156][/doublepost]
A method for doing this without restoring or setting up the phone as new

Judging by the response so far, I'd say not!
can you offer your "expert" insights on whose thoughts will help you "gauge" the "effectiveness" of something which you cannot control?

I'm no expert.
I can control whether I delete and re-download an app, and I'm asking others how effective they have found that in troubleshooting problems. I have found it useful at times. I take it you haven't found it useful. That's all
 

Galacticos

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My opinion is: it would be a waste of time do delete and reinstall all apps.

I tend to agree as you probably get from my first post. I have just seen on the forums more posts than I expected about deleting and reinstalling apps being helpful.

As I said the response to this thread, or lack thereof, says it all
 

macfacts

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Seeing as a lot of people are reporting iOS performance improvements when they get rid of or reinstall an app what are the thoughts on an option to delete all apps and data, and reinstall them without having to restore the phone?
Not a particular issue for me but seems to be a few posts about this

IOS apps are sandboxed, they can't affect one another. When an Apple genius tells you to restore from new , it is because they have no idea what is wrong.
 
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C DM

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IOS apps are sandboxed, they can't affect one another. When an Apple genius tells you to restore from new , it is because they have no idea what is wrong.
And yet one of the bigger recent iOS issues related to various apps not being able to open links was triggered by some other apps.
 

kch50428

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Seeing as a lot of people are reporting iOS performance improvements when they get rid of or reinstall an app what are the thoughts on an option to delete all apps and data, and reinstall them without having to restore the phone?
Not a particular issue for me but seems to be a few posts about this
Settings>> Genera>> Reset>> erase all content and settings <<<< There's your option.
 

sbailey4

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and how exactly would our thoughts matter?
Do you ever offer any useful information? YOUR thoughts probably dont matter as you never seem to have any useful information to add to a topic but are typically just rude to the OP's.

I tend to agree as you probably get from my first post. I have just seen on the forums more posts than I expected about deleting and reinstalling apps being helpful.

As I said the response to this thread, or lack thereof, says it all
What I have found is restoring iOS then restoring a backup then reset all settings seems to work just as well. Even if you don't restore first but simply upgrade to a new version, the reset all seems to clear out issues that may arise.
 

KALLT

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The quickest way to do this is by using iTunes. You can delete and reinstall apps much quicker with it, as you only have to click buttons in a list.

And yet one of the bigger recent iOS issues related to various apps not being able to open links was triggered by some other apps.

That was a bug in a system program to which the sandboxing rules do not apply. Apps still interface with system programs. Third-party apps cannot interact with each other, they can only interact through an interface provided by the system, which themselves have their own security precautions (like access control lists and limited permissions and such).
 

danleon950410

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Do you ever offer any useful information? YOUR thoughts probably dont matter as you never seem to have any useful information to add to a topic but are typically just rude to the OP's.


What I have found is restoring iOS then restoring a backup then reset all settings seems to work just as well. Even if you don't restore first but simply upgrade to a new version, the reset all seems to clear out issues that may arise.
Yeah, agreed
Diagnostics tend to show that apps crash on the background, thus causing some issues

The reason that a full restore works is because IT FREAKING WORKS, in case anyone doubts it

In my experience, OP could be right, even though the method seema a little inconvenient
 

Shirasaki

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Umm. Backup, erase all data, and restore from backup. Or just restore device, and then from backup.
I don't see any significant difference on just deleting all apps. Think about this: app data will eventually be removed whatsoever. And anything left behind is synced media, photos, movies etc. They are of little use or relation for troubleshooting.
So, I think there is little need to just delete all apps and reinstall them all. Plus you will lose all app data anyway.
But, if your device is jail broken, then there might be a need to introduce such feature. And, I may dare think this can be achieved through tweaks?
 

C DM

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The quickest way to do this is by using iTunes. You can delete and reinstall apps much quicker with it, as you only have to click buttons in a list.



That was a bug in a system program to which the sandboxing rules do not apply. Apps still interface with system programs. Third-party apps cannot interact with each other, they can only interact through an interface provided by the system, which themselves have their own security precautions (like access control lists and limited permissions and such).
Well, we certainly know rules are rules, but we also know that sometimes due to bugs or some other workarounds rules have been gotten around or broken. Normally what you say is the case, or at least certainly how it's designed to work, but enough times we've seen that there have been exceptions in one sense or anther (again, either unintentional like bugs or something else weird, or sometimes intentional, like some apps using some methods or APIs to do something they normally shouldn't be doing or allowed to do). So there's certainly enough out there to say that something like a restore can be a viable option in troubleshooting when other things haven't really resulted in much.
 
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