OS for PCs?

[Xenu]

So, Apple has gone to Intel chips, I am trying to find out if OS will be avaliable for PCs in the furture. I called the people at my local Apple store and of course they told me OS is not avaliable for PCs at the moment. Does anyone know of a rumor of OS for PC?

Also to clarify, I LOVE OS... LOVE it. It is an amazing bit of software, BUT!!! I am not a fan of Apple computers. I travel alot, and usually do alot of gaming when i'm bored out of my mind during business trip down time. Apple comps are lacking when it comes to gaming, that is no secret. So I own a PC, but want to dual boot to OS.

Thanks for any insight.

 

[EricNau]

OS X will not be available for PCs anytime soon (and I doubt even in the distant future).

But you can buy an Apple Computer and dual-boot with it (thanks to BootCamp, Windows can run completely native on any intel Mac).

 

[26139]

Never ever...

Not going to happen, ever.

 

[radiantm3]

Just for future reference, it's Mac OS, not just OS. OS = Operating System.

 

[Blackheart]

First, it's "Mac OS X" or "OS X"... not "OS"

I LOVE OS

means "I love operating system" which doesn't say a whole lot.

Second, how are Apple computers lacking in gaming? Sure, they don't have the array of video cards available on the standard IBM clones, but it seems that you're looking for a good notebook.

Third... no, there are no rumors of Apple making their OS available for installation on non-Apple hardware.

 

[Xenu]

My apologies... Mac OS X is indeed the software I would like. I tried some of my games out on a friend's Mac Book Pro series laptop and the frame rates were terrible. He bought his Mac about 6 months ago. Are Mac systems running 3D driven games much better now? I had always assumed Mac's were not built for gaming. Inlighten me if this has changed.

Thanks.

 

[EricNau]

It is possible that your friend was playing games built for PowerPC processors on a intel Mac, meaning the app was being emulated. If that was the case there would be a significant drop in performance.

Every day more and more games are being released as Universal Binaries (native for both PowerPC and intel).

 

[DXoverDY]

My apologies... Mac OS X is indeed the software I would like. I tried some of my games out on a friend's Mac Book Pro series laptop and the frame rates were terrible. He bought his Mac about 6 months ago. Are Mac systems running 3D driven games much better now? I had always assumed Mac's were not built for gaming. Inlighten me if this has changed.

Thanks.

No "laptop" is ever really "built" for gaming. Sorry but Apple's laptops are not going to be 9-20lbs monsters. They're elegant, which means small and out of your way.

MacBook Pros come with an ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with either 128mb or 256mb of RAM.

Looking at an Alienware laptop....

http://www.alienware.com/product_pages/notebook_all_default.aspx

It seems you can get them with the X1800 GPU. I'm not too familiar with the mobile GPUs so someone else can clue you in on the performance differences.

Best of luck getting a 1" thick computer with similar features and a fast graphics card.

 

[Xenu]

No "laptop" is ever really "built" for gaming. Sorry but Apple's laptops are not going to be 9-20lbs monsters. They're elegant, which means small and out of your way.


Best of luck getting a 1" thick computer with similar features and a fast graphics card.

1) There are some laptops build for gaming, and that is what I buy.
2) I don't care how thick my laptop is.
3) I just want Mac OS X on my kick butt lap top that is build for high end gaming.
4) Really all I'm looking to do is buy a product from Apple. (Mac OS X)

 

[DXoverDY]

1) There are some laptops build for gaming, and that is what I buy.
2) I don't care how thick my laptop is.
3) I just want Mac OS X on my kick butt lap top that is build for high end gaming.
4) Really all I'm looking to do is buy a product from Apple. (Mac OS X)

1. Those aren't latops... they're portable desktops... and by portable I mean slightly more portable than a desktop

2. Apple users tend to differ... I hate carrying a 6lbs laptop around (15" powerbook) more than I have to. I'd hate lugging a 12lbs laptop around on a daily basis.

3. Best of luck

4. You can buy it, but it won't work. Sorry.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/236132/

 

[breakfastcrew]

there is a way but we are not allow to talk about it here.

 

[DXoverDY]

there is a way but we are not allow to talk about it here.

Yes and it barely works. It's not even remotely close to being "useful" in that sense. So don't even bother trying.

 

[Sun Baked]

Re: Never ever...

Not going to happen, ever.

Yes, why ruin a good thing -- aka, the profit on the Apple PC sales -- by giving your OS away to the rest of the PC world.

Apple is doing quite well with their PC sales, selling the OS to everyone else will sort of ******* those sales -- like the last time Apple tried it.

Besides sticking a fork in their PC business, it would stick them in MS's crosshairs -- which has proven fatal to 95% of businesses.

I guess the real question is...

Do you really want to give up Apple's innovation in the hardware business end, for an OS?

Because Apple finally has more money to spend on that, than they have had in a long time.

 

[twistedlegato]

If you want a laptop that runs games well, and runs Apple's OS X, and that can dual boot between windows and OS X i would go for a 17" Macbook Pro!

 

[tipdrill407]

If you don't care about how thick your laptop is and your focus is games, you should just stick to windows. Mac Hardware is simply not designed for gaming and games on OS X do not run as well as their windows counterparts even on similar hardware. And OS X games cost more than their windows counterparts as well. Also OS X will not be available for non Apple hardware in your lifetime.

 

[Blackheart]

You could always buy a MBP and install both Mac OS X and Windows XP on it. You'd be able to use OS X and when you want to game, you can boot into XP and having a dual core intel notebook with a 256MB video card.

Just an idea...

 

[PCMacUser]

If you want a laptop that runs games well, and runs Apple's OS X, and that can dual boot between windows and OS X i would go for a 17" Macbook Pro!

Ditto. A 17" Macbook Pro should keep regular gamers happy, and it's oh-so-sexy. If you don't care about OS X then get a Sony AR18, which features HDMI and a Blu-Ray drive for the same price... but then OS X is so handy for people that just want to use their computers without thinking about how they work. Get the Macbook

 

[scott523]

Mac OS X will NEVER support other PCs (Windows-based, etc and Apple have said this many many times). If this ever happened, it would mean Apple just selling out their riggid OS to the PCs and would make everyone move away from buying Apple computers (which is no-no to Steve). Like Sony, Apple is in a way a proprietary company...

 

[generik]

1) There are some laptops build for gaming, and that is what I buy.
2) I don't care how thick my laptop is.
3) I just want Mac OS X on my kick butt lap top that is build for high end gaming.
4) Really all I'm looking to do is buy a product from Apple. (Mac OS X)

1. Whatever, don't call me 6 months after you've purchased to ask how to upgrade your 7950 to the latest 8950 graphics card.
2. Then you can always do a case mod on your PC and have it run off car batteries.
3. Why do you want MacOSX anyway? If anything Macs are more sluggish than Windows. Menus are crisp and responsive in Windows, and lags on Macs, and God bless you if you are after games. This is a fact.
4. Mac OS X is not a product sold by Apple for generic PCs, if you are too cheap to pony up for their computers you are not interested in supporting Apple at all, so don't play the "All I want is to buy an Apple product" card.

Anyway to me, gaming laptops = oxymoron, I will invest in a PC and a small laptop anyday. A "gaming laptop" outcosts 2 computers and neither serves well as either a gaming desktop or a mobile laptop, why bother.

 

[dpaanlka]

This thread hurts my head.

I agree with the above... there is no such thing as a gaming laptop.

 

[2ndPath]

Do you really want to give up Apple's innovation in the hardware business end, for an OS?

Well, what is innovative from Apple is mainly the software. Their hardware are pretty much standard PCs.

 

[generik]

Have someone actually did a bench between MacOS' OpenGL implementation vs Microsoft's DirectX? I remember trying to play Warcraft III on my PBG4 last time (with quite a decent Radeon 9700) and performance was absolutely abysmal. That one experience really put me off MacOS gaming, now Mac = work, PC = play.

 

[Eidorian]

Have someone actually did a bench between MacOS' OpenGL implementation vs Microsoft's DirectX? I remember trying to play Warcraft III on my PBG4 last time (with quite a decent Radeon 9700) and performance was absolutely abysmal. That one experience really put me off MacOS gaming, now Mac = work, PC = play.

Wait for multi-threaded OpenGL.

 

[Sun Baked]

Well, what is innovative from Apple is mainly the software. Their hardware are pretty much standard PCs.

Don't think anyone wants to depend on PC makers to add new items to their PCs, which will probably happen at the rate Intel decides to add stuff to their chipsets in the future.

Would have thought Apple would have stepped up with the next generation ethernet on the Mac Pro and wireless on the other machines by now though.

 

[PCMacUser]

Wait for multi-threaded OpenGL.

Why wait when you can have gaming now on a PC?