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minty-freshness

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i respect apple and their awesome new program. i was wondering if someone had ever thought of actually putting OSX onto a windows. is OSX just too easy that the PC would explode, or what? just seeing if it's possible.
 

yellow

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Oct 21, 2003
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Which awesome new program? OS X? I assume you mean installing OS X on a PC?
Yes, I think a couple of people might have thought of it before. ;)

It's currently a violation of the Software License Agreement with OS X to install it on a PC.

Some people still attempt to do it: http://www.osx86project.org/
 

topgunn

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Nov 5, 2004
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On of the things that makes an Apple an Apple is the superior hardware/software integration. If Apple decided to release OS X on to any old Dell, HP or home-built box, you could throw that advantage out the window.

If you take a look around on osx86project.org, you will see a bunch of people who are hand-writing their own drivers (well, only a few are writing but a bunch are using them) so they can get their sound cards and video cards to work. "My OSX86 is working great! Well, I only get mono and I am limited to 1024x768 but who really cares about that stuff?" Apple could add support for all these devices but they won't. There is too much that could go wrong. One positive about OSX86 is the amount of people who have said, "Screw it...I'm getting a Mac."
 

zero2dash

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Jul 6, 2006
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yellow said:
Which awesome new program? OS X? I assume you mean installing OS X on a PC?
Yes, I think a couple of people might have thought of it before. ;)

It's currently a violation of the Software License Agreement with OS X to install it on a PC.

Some people still attempt to do it: http://www.osx86project.org/

It's not a matter of attempting it, it's already been done many times by many people (including myself). :D It's very easy to do if you've worked with disk partitioning or partitioning software, you have broadband and access to a dvd burner. That being said - I won't go into the legal issues involved. :) I don't currently have it installed and don't plan on it anytime soon because I've long since decided to buy a Mac; I'm just waiting for the Core 2's to appear and then I'm on my way to the store.

topgunn said:
On of the things that makes an Apple an Apple is the superior hardware/software integration. If Apple decided to release OS X on to any old Dell, HP or home-built box, you could throw that advantage out the window.

If you take a look around on osx86project.org, you will see a bunch of people who are hand-writing their own drivers (well, only a few are writing but a bunch are using them) so they can get their sound cards and video cards to work. "My OSX86 is working great! Well, I only get mono and I am limited to 1024x768 but who really cares about that stuff?" Apple could add support for all these devices but they won't. There is too much that could go wrong. One positive about OSX86 is the amount of people who have said, "Screw it...I'm getting a Mac."

Apple would also lose the money they make on their hardware, and Microsoft would see them as a direct competitor which would also sour their agreement/relationship (if there even is one). That being said...OSX86 runs from ok to very well depending upon what hardware you are running it on; ie if you have an Intel system with Intel chipsets, you're all but guaranteed compatibility. I've ran it on my P4 3.0c, 865PE mobo system and had everything work (including higher resolutions on a Radeon 9500 video card). But, yes, you're still running (effectively) a hacked and community-supported OS versus something that Apple themselves publishes, so - YMMV.
 

yellow

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Oct 21, 2003
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My point in saying "attempting it" was that Macrumors HEAVILY frowns upon discussing illegal activities. Which this is.
 

JBot

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Jan 9, 2006
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Legal

There's no doubt that running OS X on your PC is illegal. If you used a torrent to download the installation disc, you're sharing copyrighted material. In the off-chance that you hacked it yourself, you're violating the EULA and the DMCA. Any way you look at it, it's obviously against the law.

The question here, though, is whether or not that's acceptable. The sharing of copyrighted material is something that many folks generally accept as wrong but do anyway (Feel free to argue that it's not wrong). But what about the acronyms of doom? Does Apple have the right (and there are a few legal battles in the past that apply here... I'll leave that to someone else to introduce into the debate) to restrict their operating system to their own hardware? Furthermore, is it wrong for them to prosecute anyone who tries to break that restriction, via the DMCA? Is the DMCA law just?

Doesnt sound illegal to me.......;)
 

Kardashian

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Sep 4, 2005
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By the 'new program' - I think the OP means BootCamp.

BootCamp allowed a user to run Windows on a Mac, not Mac OSX on a PC.

As previous P's have said, it is possible, but is 1) not supported by any companies for drivers etc, and more importantly, 2) Illegal.
 

yellow

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Oct 21, 2003
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JBot said:
Doesnt sound illegal to me......

People's opinion on whether the laws are appropriate or not are totally irrelevant, and moreso incredibly stupid.
Just because I think pot should be legal won't keep me from a federal pen if I get busted with a kilo.

The Apple SLA for OS X clearly states that OS X is to be run only on an Apple branded computer.
 

virus1

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josh.thomas said:
By the 'new program' - I think the OP means BootCamp.

BootCamp allowed a user to run Windows on a Mac, not Mac OSX on a PC.

As previous P's have said, it is possible, but is 1) not supported by any companies for drivers etc, and more importantly, 2) Illegal.
not to mention, bootcamp isn't even a program. not even an application. clearly a pc don'twannabe..

(you tell them, y!)
 
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