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i use it...i've got clients who need the work in pagemaker so they can update it...it's perfect for them...
i generally use quark...but i wish that adobe would pay attention and implement things in InDesign that people have been complaining about since day one...that app has a nice future...
but pagemaker 7 has some pretty neat features...for a small business person this is a very nice tool...better than any ****ing thing M$ makes...p7 has a great feature that rivals microsoft words "mail merge"...and we all know what a total piece of crap Word is when it comes to any kind of page layout...
i generally use quark...but i wish that adobe would pay attention and implement things in InDesign that people have been complaining about since day one...that app has a nice future...
but pagemaker 7 has some pretty neat features...for a small business person this is a very nice tool...better than any ****ing thing M$ makes...p7 has a great feature that rivals microsoft words "mail merge"...and we all know what a total piece of crap Word is when it comes to any kind of page layout...
We had Pagemaker (forget the version number whatever it was from '88 to '92) on the Mac's in the computer lab at college. Anyone taking classes there was taught how to use it. More advanced classes were given in Quark.
I used both there and then at my first position as a designer. At the time, I liked Pagemaker better then Quark, but then Quark released an update and I started to use it more. Once I learned the way Quark works, and saw how many more companies use it, I got to like it.
We had both Pagemaker and Quark at the print shop I worked at for over 2 years, and we typically pulled all Pagemaker files into Quark since that was better for our needs. We needed to output to large film (30"x40") and Quark allowed us to make the layout pages without any problem.
At the company I work at now, we use Quark, at least at this location. I know that some of the other divisions use both.
Since I tried the beta of Quark 5, I have been thinking about buying a copy for myself. Until now, I have only had access to it at work. I just don't know when I will be able to do this, since I have a few other things that are higher on my priority list at the moment. Things like a larger hard drive for my TiBook, and the Harley.
I used both there and then at my first position as a designer. At the time, I liked Pagemaker better then Quark, but then Quark released an update and I started to use it more. Once I learned the way Quark works, and saw how many more companies use it, I got to like it.
We had both Pagemaker and Quark at the print shop I worked at for over 2 years, and we typically pulled all Pagemaker files into Quark since that was better for our needs. We needed to output to large film (30"x40") and Quark allowed us to make the layout pages without any problem.
At the company I work at now, we use Quark, at least at this location. I know that some of the other divisions use both.
Since I tried the beta of Quark 5, I have been thinking about buying a copy for myself. Until now, I have only had access to it at work. I just don't know when I will be able to do this, since I have a few other things that are higher on my priority list at the moment. Things like a larger hard drive for my TiBook, and the Harley.
I think that Pagemaker is only here at this point for the people who hate Quark and have not made the switch yet to Indesign. Indesign 2 is great and a heck of a lot better and Quark still is about 1 - 2 years away from an OS X version. They need to get a clue!!!!
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The only reason why my company even has Pagemaker is because we get files from clients every now & then. 3 out of 5 times, though, it's Quark. Pagemaker, in my opinion, is very user-unfriendly and just all around a headache to get around in. In my experience, if there's a way to do something easily in Quark, it's about 5 times harder in Pagemaker. I've often wondered why Adobe even continues to bother with it.
When I was in school, we learned Quark first....then when they got us into Pagemaker, everyone was pretty pissed off. It was so much harder to get used to once u took the dive into Quark.
I haven't used Pagemaker 7 yet, and I doubt we'll ever run it here. Do u guys like it any better (for those who have it)?
The only reason why my company even has Pagemaker is because we get files from clients every now & then. 3 out of 5 times, though, it's Quark. Pagemaker, in my opinion, is very user-unfriendly and just all around a headache to get around in. In my experience, if there's a way to do something easily in Quark, it's about 5 times harder in Pagemaker. I've often wondered why Adobe even continues to bother with it.
When I was in school, we learned Quark first....then when they got us into Pagemaker, everyone was pretty pissed off. It was so much harder to get used to once u took the dive into Quark.
I haven't used Pagemaker 7 yet, and I doubt we'll ever run it here. Do u guys like it any better (for those who have it)?
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These posts are very interesting to me. I am a Pagemaker user. I tried to use Quark last year and it was really hard for me to get into. Pagemaker was so easy for me to use and it did everything I wanted, I could not understand why all the fuss about Quark. I have tried Indesign and it does some nice things but not as easily as Pagemaker. I must really have an ignorant side I know. I feel like I am in the bleachers waving the Pagemaker flag and I am the only one there.
I use Photoshop mostly and I have found that Photoshop and Pagemaker do about everything if I throw in a little Word for X. I use Canvas and it seems much more friendly to use than Quark. I am really out of touch aren't I?
These posts are very interesting to me. I am a Pagemaker user. I tried to use Quark last year and it was really hard for me to get into. Pagemaker was so easy for me to use and it did everything I wanted, I could not understand why all the fuss about Quark. I have tried Indesign and it does some nice things but not as easily as Pagemaker. I must really have an ignorant side I know. I feel like I am in the bleachers waving the Pagemaker flag and I am the only one there.
I use Photoshop mostly and I have found that Photoshop and Pagemaker do about everything if I throw in a little Word for X. I use Canvas and it seems much more friendly to use than Quark. I am really out of touch aren't I?
Yes, I am still a faithful Pagemaker user going on 10 years now. With the exceptions of organizations like Kinko's (who were mandated to use Pagemaker after some nasty legal squabbles with Quark) most of your Pagemaker users are/were corporate marketing departments, banks, insurance agencies, non-profits, etc. Not very sexy, but productive. Xpress v. Pagemaker arguments though relatively moot now never really seemed to get the point. You use what's available. If work uses Pagemaker --- you use Pagemaker. I've always been more effective using a Freehand/Pagmaker/Photoshop combo rather than the "graphic industry standard" Illustrator/Quark/Photoshop. These products think like I think. For me, Illustrator is still the most counter-intuitive program I've ever struggled to use, but apparently I'm in the minority.
And I won't even go into the scores of layout horror stories that I encountered during my time at McKinko's. The flipside to using-what's-available doesn't include setting up your company's training manuals (with tabs) in Powerpoint. That's just a crime against nature.
I hope Pagemaker survives in some format if only to eventually rid the earth of M$ Punisher...errr pUbLissherr.
And I won't even go into the scores of layout horror stories that I encountered during my time at McKinko's. The flipside to using-what's-available doesn't include setting up your company's training manuals (with tabs) in Powerpoint. That's just a crime against nature.
I hope Pagemaker survives in some format if only to eventually rid the earth of M$ Punisher...errr pUbLissherr.
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I agree with you on this. I have tried illustrator also and could not get the point of it. Pagemaker is just a sweet little package that works simply and effectively, even to print out little books on it. I especially like it with the tool bar addition from Extensis. I sure hope it goes to OSX. If it doesn't go to X I may have to learn to use something less intuitive. I may have to use Canvas all the time, but it can't do some of the things Pagemaker can do. I really don't care for Quark or illustrator. Can't say why exactly, they just never did click with the way I think.
I agree with you on this. I have tried illustrator also and could not get the point of it. Pagemaker is just a sweet little package that works simply and effectively, even to print out little books on it. I especially like it with the tool bar addition from Extensis. I sure hope it goes to OSX. If it doesn't go to X I may have to learn to use something less intuitive. I may have to use Canvas all the time, but it can't do some of the things Pagemaker can do. I really don't care for Quark or illustrator. Can't say why exactly, they just never did click with the way I think.