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Panther as OSX version 11

TEG

TEG

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I was surfing through Apple's PR sight and came accross an interesting picture.
panthercd.jpg

I don't have access to any photo software right now, am I reading this right? Does it not say Mac OSX version 11.

I saw a picture like this in both the September MacAddict and Macword (US) and I thought it was just a joke, could Apple really be calling Panther OSX v11 not OSX v10.3? Is the v11 thing just my mind playing tricks? Or peliminary numbering, and they haven't fixed the pictures?

TEG
 
Re: Panther as OSX version 11

Originally posted by TEG
I was surfing through Apple's PR sight and came accross an interesting picture.
panthercd.jpg

I don't have access to any photo software right now, am I reading this right? Does it not say Mac OSX version 11.

I saw a picture like this in both the September MacAddict and Macword (US) and I thought it was just a joke, could Apple really be calling Panther OSX v11 not OSX v10.3? Is the v11 thing just my mind playing tricks? Or peliminary numbering, and they haven't fixed the pictures?

TEG
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You are probably confused. Jaguar is clearly labeled MacOS X version 10.3. You probably saw a reference to X11, which is bundled with Jaguar. X11 is the X-Windowing System, which is the standard display server for GUI-based UNIX applications.
 
typically Apple does a .5 (at least) before they'll go to the next numbering... For instance, 7.0. 7.1; 7.2, 7.3, 7.4 (these three are internal releases); 7.5, 7.6, 8. They have to get over the "hump" before they go on to the next version. Of course this doesn't hold true for OS 9, because it was meant to eventually be finished enough to transition to X, numbering be damned.

Plus, version number revisions require something major-- Apple needs to find something other than the "new aqua" look to differenciate. Altho the fast user switching almost counts, in my mind... it's the only thing that's really fundamentally different...

pnw
 
He isn't crazy because I have the edition of Mac Addict that clearly has the Panther CD and it says "Mac OS X version 11" but I think they were just saying that it has so many changes and nice improvements that it is "like" it were version 11 and not just .3, at least, that's the best I can explain it as. As far as Panther, it'd be nice to get it for a reduced price since I just ordered my new 15" PowerBook today, but if not, I will still be happy to spend the extra for it since it looks to be wholely worth it.
 
So, most of you are going to go right out and buy Panther? OR, are some of you going to wait and see what issues may pop up before investing in it?

~e
 
I'm getting Panther as soon as I can get my car to the store and hold the box in my hands. If there is a major issue, there will undoubtably be an update that can be updated shortly afterwards. Hell, Jaguar is how old and still getting another patch/update.
 
Jaguar isn't *that* old

Jaguar just came out last year. It's not that terribly old. Besides, the longer it takes to come out, the less per month I will have spent on Jag :)
 
I know it isn't old, but it's just that if you wait until Panther is "perfect", OS 10.4 will have already come out, then if you wait for 10.4 to be "perfect", 10.5 will be coming out...software developement never truly reaches that state where you can say "Okay, there are no kinks or holes, I can safely buy it now".
 
Originally posted by Powerbook G5
I know it isn't old, but it's just that if you wait until Panther is "perfect", OS 10.4 will have already come out, then if you wait for 10.4 to be "perfect", 10.5 will be coming out...software developement never truly reaches that state where you can say "Okay, there are no kinks or holes, I can safely buy it now".
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Hey, no OS is perfect but problems do arise it might be wise to just wait a month or two and see if Panther does any whacky things to the system. I'm sure there's bound to be some things. Patches and Updates don't happen over night. Besides, if you use your system for work, you sure don't want to be dealing problems when you got deadlines.

~e
 
I understand that, but overall, I have yet to have any major problems with upgrading as of yet. I've gone from 8.6 to 9, to 9.1, to 9.2, to 9.21, to 9.2.2. I installed OS 10.0 and updated to 10.0.5, but just abandoned that due to severe speed and compatibility issues, but with each of those updates, I have never once experienced a glitch big enough to actually affect my system or my ability to get my work done besides the initial time it took to download, install, and restart to apply the said updates. With Panther, it seems like they have found the major glitches and the fact that they ask developers to actually install on top of 10.1/10.2 to see if there are no hiccups is a good indication that Apple does do testing to make sure that there isn't some disaster waiting to happen when you install Panther. I know there is no way to account for every possible factor, but I feel pretty confident that when I purchase Panther, I will be more than happy with it.
 
Originally posted by stoid
So if I buy a new PBook today, and 10.3 comes out before year's end, will I have to shell out another 129 dollars for it , because if so I will be totally pissed!
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Stoid,
You will. It has been Apple's customary policy to not offer the up-to-date program until the official release date is announced for the operating system.

Secondly, you will want to get the $129 version if you want to get Panther because it will provide a valuable troubleshooting resource that the upgrade CDs do not provide and that is Archive and Install (see Apple kbase article 107120 at www.apple.com/support). I doubt if Apple will have a similar feature in the upgrade CDs which will probably cost $20.

If you are a college student/professor/or k-12 teacher the full version will only cost $70. If you are a government employee or military personel the full version will be only $65. This is based on Mac OS X 10.2. By the way, Mac OS X 10.2 was really Mac OS X 12, and Mac OS X 10.3 was really Mac OS X 13. Apple just happens to be releasing operating system upgrades much more frequently than they used to. It doesn't mean your old system is out of date, it will continue to run. But if you need the features of Panther, buy it.
You have to learn to determine the difference between need and want.
 
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