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Mac.World

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Got a little bird telling me about a 3rd party app, that is actually using Apple's Passbook file format, so you can replicate Passbook exactly. Add Google Wallet to your S3, Note 2, HOX, Nex7, etc and you just eliminated your need for a wallet. Even your drivers license can be replicated. Police only need your license # anyway.
Anyway, the app is called PassWallet and it is free and no ads. I just made some fake coupons and tickets to show what it looks like.
 

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Mac.World

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I need a bit of help. I've just downloaded it and opened it.


now what?

The app itself just sits there. It is waiting for the phone to recognize a new ticket or coupon. You will have a new option for Pass wallet next time you have the option to save a ticket for something. You can also create your own. If you click on the developers website, there is more info.

Also, since this is using Apple's file extension names, we have to wait for ios6 to be releases. We are just like the Pass book beta testers at this point.
 

alent1234

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like i'm going to give some fly by night developer with only a facebook page access to my loyalty cards and credit cards and other financial data
 

Calidude

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I think this e-wallet stuff is too premature and probably not secure enough to be used. I'd rather just carry my actual wallet.
 

racco

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like i'm going to give some fly by night developer with only a facebook page access to my loyalty cards and credit cards and other financial data

These "fly by night" developers have more than a facebook account. http://www.attidomobile.com/

Apples Passbook app, and this app don't have access to any credit cards or other financial data. Thats not how it works. See here if you would like to know how it works.



Also. Here's a few sources to try out passes while waiting for companies to start using the passes

http://www.passsource.com
http://demo.passfu.com
http://passk.it
http://ipass.pk
 

Rogifan

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What's so difficult about carrying a wallet? If you're a woman you'll most likely be using a handbag anyway. I don't see why this is such a big deal.
 

Mac.World

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I think this e-wallet stuff is too premature and probably not secure enough to be used. I'd rather just carry my actual wallet.

Lose your wallet, credit cards can be used until you cancel them. Your cash and ID gone. Have fun replacing license at the dmv.

Google Wallet = Encrypted and pass code required.
Passbook - no sensitive credit info stored
Lemon. Com app = encrypted and password protected files. License and insurance stored here, should I get pulled over by the cops. Registration still in paper form in the car.

Lose phone = remote android wipe and all data is secured. Google wallet can be independently used to delete credit card info from any pc, tablet or phone.

I think I'll keep using my S3 and leave my wallet at home. It's a liberating feeling just carrying some cash and a phone.
 

Calidude

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Lose your wallet, credit cards can be used until you cancel them. Your cash and ID gone. Have fun replacing license at the dmv.
  1. You need a physical license in order to use it. Nobody is going to take your picture on a phone as ID. If cops need your license number only, that can always been written ANYWHERE you need it in your car.
  2. Only an idiot would leave the house with credit cards or a debit card with more than how much they usually spend on a night out.
  3. It's pretty hard to lose a wallet. I don't know how people do that. They must have really terrible memory to just leave a wallet somewhere.
 
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dukeblue91

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Lose your wallet, credit cards can be used until you cancel them. Your cash and ID gone. Have fun replacing license at the dmv.

Google Wallet = Encrypted and pass code required.
Passbook - no sensitive credit info stored
Lemon. Com app = encrypted and password protected files. License and insurance stored here, should I get pulled over by the cops. Registration still in paper form in the car.

Lose phone = remote android wipe and all data is secured. Google wallet can be independently used to delete credit card info from any pc, tablet or phone.

I think I'll keep using my S3 and leave my wallet at home. It's a liberating feeling just carrying some cash and a phone.

I'd love to see the look on your face the first time you try doing this when you get pulled over and are being asked for your drivers license.

You have to have a physical ID one made by the state and not a picture of one far to easy to fake.
No airline or anything that requires a real ID will let you use that, sorry it just is not going to work.
Oh and just in case you have a CCW license don't even try that or you will lose your gun and end up the night in jail.

It's just to early for that kind of stuff at this time.
 

Mac.World

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I'd love to see the look on your face the first time you try doing this when you get pulled over and are being asked for your drivers license.

You have to have a physical ID one made by the state and not a picture of one far to easy to fake.
No airline or anything that requires a real ID will let you use that, sorry it just is not going to work.
Oh and just in case you have a CCW license don't even try that or you will lose your gun and end up the night in jail.

It's just to early for that kind of stuff at this time.

Uhh, if I am taking a plane trip, I am probably going to have my wallet with me, with passport too. I am referring to local travel.

As for carrying a license, it is not needed if the officer can pull your record up on his computer, which is what they do with a plastic license anyway. And you really believe people don't make fake copies of id's.?

As for ccw, every state is different. If I need to carry, I will look into the laws of the state. That is not an issue for many though. Just those that have twisted the 2nd amendment to fit their screwed up views. "Hey buba! Yeah Bobby Joe? You bring the ar-15 to go duck hunting?" seriously
 

dukeblue91

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Uhh, if I am taking a plane trip, I am probably going to have my wallet with me, with passport too. I am referring to local travel.

As for carrying a license, it is not needed if the officer can pull your record up on his computer, which is what they do with a plastic license anyway. And you really believe people don't make fake copies of id's.?

As for ccw, every state is different. If I need to carry, I will look into the laws of the state. That is not an issue for many though. Just those that have twisted the 2nd amendment to fit their screwed up views. "Hey buba! Yeah Bobby Joe? You bring the ar-15 to go duck hunting?" seriously

Sorry to say this ( Not Really ) but you are wrong about just having a number and many other things too but I'll go with this for now.

When being pulled over and asked for your Drivers license and registration it means just that, and not what you think is sufficient in your mind.
Giving a cop your DL number does not proof anything to them or identifies you as being that person that that said number says you should be.
And will not be acceptable to them wether you like it or not.

Same goes if you go to a bar to have a drink if they ask to see your ID your number or a picture of it on a phone will not suffice to proof your age or your identity.

As far as taking your passport on a plane that all nice but a Drivers License will be needed in lieu of and you don't need a Passport for domestic flights.
And you do know that you can fly within cities and states in the US, you know it is still called local travel.

How you leaped from my example of a Concealed Handgun Permit which has to be accompanied with a DL or state ID in all states that offer one, to a AR15, Bubba and the Second Amendment of our constitution is beyond my comprehension.
But it paints a clear picture of what kind of person you are and are not.

This is all I will say about the constitution on this forum as it really has nothing to do with Google wallet or Pass books apps or phones and what you can and can not do with them.

I would like if you could do all that with those apps and would not need to carry both a phone and a wallet but it is just not doable at this time.
 

Mac.World

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Sorry to say this ( Not Really ) but you are wrong about just having a number and many other things too but I'll go with this for now.

When being pulled over and asked for your Drivers license and registration it means just that, and not what you think is sufficient in your mind.
Giving a cop your DL number does not proof anything to them or identifies you as being that person that that said number says you should be.
And will not be acceptable to them wether you like it or not.

Same goes if you go to a bar to have a drink if they ask to see your ID your number or a picture of it on a phone will not suffice to proof your age or your identity.

As far as taking your passport on a plane that all nice but a Drivers License will be needed in lieu of and you don't need a Passport for domestic flights.
And you do know that you can fly within cities and states in the US, you know it is still called local travel.

How you leaped from my example of a Concealed Handgun Permit which has to be accompanied with a DL or state ID in all states that offer one, to a AR15, Bubba and the Second Amendment of our constitution is beyond my comprehension.
But it paints a clear picture of what kind of person you are and are not.

This is all I will say about the constitution on this forum as it really has nothing to do with Google wallet or Pass books apps or phones and what you can and can not do with them.

I would like if you could do all that with those apps and would not need to carry both a phone and a wallet but it is just not doable at this time.

I suggest you educate yourself on the law before speaking. Everything you stated above is wrong with regards to police and id. If I am on public property and not involved in any legal activity, a cop can ask for my id and I do not have to respond. I can walk away. If the cop were to have reasonable suspicion that I was involved in a crime or matched a description we can move to a Terry Stop and he can ask for ID. I DO NOT have to provide one, I simply have to state my name and date of birth and address. The Supreme Court has thrown out every State challenge that a person is required to have "credible and reliable" id that carries a "reasonable assurance" of its authenticity, on grounds of 'vagueness'.
As long as you are not in the middle of committing a crime, obstructing justice or there is reasonable suspicion by a cop to believe you have or are about to commit a crime, you need only provide a verbal response during a Terry Stop. Having my identification digitally stored goes beyond this requirement and allows an officer to view my dl number to cross check with dmv records. Should that cop attempt to view any other info on my phone has been deemed a violation of my rights and not admissible.

As for bars, clubs that serve etc... They specifically state in writing that you must have a valid I'd to be served and they also have the right for refusal. These a privately owned bars complying with Federal and State laws. This is not the same thing as above. You are not forced into any bar and no one forces you to drink. If I don't want to carry a paper Id, I don't have to go drinking. There is a choice here.
I also do not have to fly. Again, if I don't want to carry an ID, I don't have to fly. In my case though, I don't need a drivers license to fly anyway. And if you want to use a passport to fly domestically or any other for of government ID, you can. But this is only for security checkpoints, not in actually obtaining a ticket.

You need to learn the difference between free, detained, arrested; State and Federal laws, with an emphasis on identification. And remember Federal law trumps State law. In other words, I don't need my actually plastic license on me. Ever
 
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ODog4523

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Like the concept, and like that the app doesn't store any sensitive info per se, but don't the passes you load potentially contain sensitive info? This might not be as much a concern, but I see the app is requesting permission to access the internet...
 

kydizzle

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Lose your wallet, credit cards can be used until you cancel them. Your cash and ID gone. Have fun replacing license at the dmv.

Google Wallet = Encrypted and pass code required.
Passbook - no sensitive credit info stored
Lemon. Com app = encrypted and password protected files. License and insurance stored here, should I get pulled over by the cops. Registration still in paper form in the car.

Lose phone = remote android wipe and all data is secured. Google wallet can be independently used to delete credit card info from any pc, tablet or phone.

I think I'll keep using my S3 and leave my wallet at home. It's a liberating feeling just carrying some cash and a phone.

When I try to install Google Wallet on my Galaxy SIII (w/Verizon) I get the message that the app is not compatible w/my phone. Is this the app you are referring to or am I trying to download the wrong one?
 
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