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A family member needed a computer and I was happy to hand down my 2015 rMBP. I'm now using a MBA M2.

On the MacBook Pro I have the latest possible Mac OS Monterey version. I have migrated my data to my new Mac. I want to give my family member a new Mac but I have limited time. Is there a way I can delete my profile instead of resetting to factory settings? Would all my data still be properly wiped?

Any suggestions or links for advice would be greatly appreciated. I don't have much time before I'm meant to give them the Mac.
 

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Would all my data still be properly wiped?
Since Mac OS X Lion (2011) the entire hard drive is encrypted by default with FileVault 2. Nobody can ever read your user data, if he doesn't have your password to decrypt the unreadable mess. Setting up a new user account is sufficient protection. You don't even need to delete the old account, if you don't need more disk space.

 

Fishrrman

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I don't think the "erase all content and settings" will work on the 2015 MacBook Pro. I believe this works only on m-series Macs, or on Intel Macs that have a t2 chip (2015 doesn't have one). I could be wrong.

IMPORTANT:
On the 2015 MBP, you need to:
- sign out of iTunes
- sign out of iCloud
- I would also go to iCloud on your NEW MB, and double-check to see that the old one "wasn't there any more".

For a quick-n-dirty "cleanup", you could do this:
1. Go to users and groups, and create a new, "temporary" account.
2. Give it administrative privileges (important step). All you need is a username and password, nothing more than that.
3. Now, LOG OUT of your "regular" account and log into the new "empty" account.
4. Next, in the new temp account, again go to users and groups.
5. Click the lock at the bottom and enter your [new temp] password.
6. Now, click on your regular account ONE TIME to select it, then click the "-" sign to delete it.
7. You will be asked if you wish to archive it or completely delete it.
8. You want to COMPLETELY delete it (make it "gone").

At this point what you do will depend on what the family member already has.
Does he/she have an older Mac?
Is it backed up?

IF it's backed up, you could connect the backup drive, then open Migration Assistant and "move stuff over".
A new account will be created on the 2015 MBP, taking the place of your old account.

Or, you could "manually create" a brand-new account for the family member. But be forewarned -- doing so could cause problems if the person THEN uses migration assistant to bring stuff over, because he/she could end up with TWO user accounts and permissions conflicts.

ASSUMING that you kept stuff "within" your home folder, all of that -- your files, data, settings, etc. -- will be gone with the deletion of the old account.
Your 3rd party installed applications will still be there, but your personal settings will be removed.

IF you kept stuff elsewhere, such as on the root level of the drive, you'll have to delete such things manually.
 
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KaliYoni

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Any suggestions or links for advice would be greatly appreciated.

  1. If I was facing a similar situation, I would try to return the Mac to its newly purchased state as much as possible. Why? Because there might be sensitive data I've either forgotten about or don't know about somewhere on the storage device and because I don't know how the recipient will dispose of the machine after they're done with it.
  2. I think this is a good overview of erasing Mac drives: https://tidbits.com/2022/08/15/how-to-securely-erase-a-macs-ssd-or-hard-drive/
 
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Phreddyl

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I want to do this as well with my 2019 MacBook Air- Giving it to a friend but want to keep all the programs that are currently installed. Is this possible?
 

kitKAC

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I want to do this as well with my 2019 MacBook Air- Giving it to a friend but want to keep all the programs that are currently installed. Is this possible?

Create a new User account for your Friend, restart the machine and log into the new account, then delete your old one. Probably best to check that you're not logged into iCloud or that Find My Mac is enabled before doing any of this.
 

Fishrrman

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kit wrote:
"Create a new User account for your Friend, restart the machine and log into the new account, then delete your old one."

There could be a problem if you do it this way.

Accounts are "numbered", from the initial setup.
The very first account you create on a new Mac is the [user ID] "501" account.

Subsequent accounts will get different user ID numbers, such as "502", "503", etc.

Maybe this makes no difference at all, but I'm wondering if the OS gives any "preferences" to the 501 account.

Having said that.
If you create a new (502) account without erasing the 501 account, then you delete the 501 account, there is now that "empty account space".
Again, may matter, or may not.

On the other hand.
If you create a "temporary" 502 account, and THEN delete the 501 account, when you "migrate" the friend's account, it will "drop into" the [now empty] "501 space", and thus "be where it needs to be".

That's why I suggested what I did in reply 5 above.
Again, maybe this makes no difference at all.
Perhaps someone who knows will comment.
 

KaliYoni

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Maybe this makes no difference at all, but I'm wondering if the OS gives any "preferences" to the 501 account.

Yes, it can make a difference. I haven't run into this type of conflict recently, but things like the Keychain, file permissions, and Time Machine can get messed up when a person's User ID number changes. This is why the old advice to boot a new Mac, use it briefly to ensure it is not defective, and then manually launch Migration Assistant is not a good path to follow. It's better to do a factory reset and follow the automatic first-run Migration Assistant workflow.
 
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Makisupa Policeman

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I don't think the "erase all content and settings" will work on the 2015 MacBook Pro. I believe this works only on m-series Macs, or on Intel Macs that have a t2 chip (2015 doesn't have one). I could be wrong.

IMPORTANT:
On the 2015 MBP, you need to:
- sign out of iTunes
- sign out of iCloud
- I would also go to iCloud on your NEW MB, and double-check to see that the old one "wasn't there any more".

For a quick-n-dirty "cleanup", you could do this:
1. Go to users and groups, and create a new, "temporary" account.
2. Give it administrative privileges (important step). All you need is a username and password, nothing more than that.
3. Now, LOG OUT of your "regular" account and log into the new "empty" account.
4. Next, in the new temp account, again go to users and groups.
5. Click the lock at the bottom and enter your [new temp] password.
6. Now, click on your regular account ONE TIME to select it, then click the "-" sign to delete it.
7. You will be asked if you wish to archive it or completely delete it.
8. You want to COMPLETELY delete it (make it "gone").

At this point what you do will depend on what the family member already has.
Does he/she have an older Mac?
Is it backed up?

IF it's backed up, you could connect the backup drive, then open Migration Assistant and "move stuff over".
A new account will be created on the 2015 MBP, taking the place of your old account.

Or, you could "manually create" a brand-new account for the family member. But be forewarned -- doing so could cause problems if the person THEN uses migration assistant to bring stuff over, because he/she could end up with TWO user accounts and permissions conflicts.

ASSUMING that you kept stuff "within" your home folder, all of that -- your files, data, settings, etc. -- will be gone with the deletion of the old account.
Your 3rd party installed applications will still be there, but your personal settings will be removed.

IF you kept stuff elsewhere, such as on the root level of the drive, you'll have to delete such things manually.
You’re correct about Erase All Content and Settings. It only works on Apple Silicon or Intel Macs with the T2 security chip. The 2015 MBP does not have one. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208862
 

Makisupa Policeman

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Since Mac OS X Lion (2011) the entire hard drive is encrypted by default with FileVault 2. Nobody can ever read your user data, if he doesn't have your password to decrypt the unreadable mess. Setting up a new user account is sufficient protection. You don't even need to delete the old account, if you don't need more disk space.

Isn’t this only true if you’ve enabled FileVault? It’s turned off by default
 

Makisupa Policeman

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Mine is off by default. Or at least, I’m prompted to turn it on when setting up a new device so it’s not automatically turned on. That article is 8 years old. I think it switched back sometime around Catalina.

Personally, Nothing I have is worth hiding enough that I’d risk not being able to get it back if I lose the encryption key.
 
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