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mavis

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Just wondering if anyone has been able to darken the leather on a saddle brown leather link band. I was able to do it on my iPhone X leather case, years ago, using almond oil ... but oiling my new leather link band didn't seem to have any effect at all. I want the leather to be darker and/or look more aged. Any suggestions on how to expedite this process?

Here's a $10 band I bought from AliExpress a few years ago. I never wear it (it's too thick and not pliable enough) but I love the color. I think I oiled it 2-3 times to get this look. FA873D5A-CB95-4983-8052-09801A840225.jpeg
 

MacDevil7334

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Don’t own this band. But, there has been quite a bit of chatter over on the iPhone leather case thread about how the saddle brown cases for the iPhone 12 are not developing a patina like in years past. I wonder if Apple has started treating their leather products more/differently this year. If so, that’s a shame.
 

mavis

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Don’t own this band. But, there has been quite a bit of chatter over on the iPhone leather case thread about how the saddle brown cases for the iPhone 12 are not developing a patina like in years past. I wonder if Apple has started treating their leather products more/differently this year. If so, that’s a shame.
Hmm. That's news to me ... :(

I agree that the leather feels far more "plasticky" than any leather Apple has previously used (in my experience). I even tried using using brown shoe polish on it last night, and it had no effect. I guess I just have to accept the fact that I threw away $100 on a band that I'll never use.
 

MacDevil7334

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Hmm. That's news to me ... :(

I agree that the leather feels far more "plasticky" than any leather Apple has previously used (in my experience). I even tried using using brown shoe polish on it last night, and it had no effect. I guess I just have to accept the fact that I threw away $100 on a band that I'll never use.
Yeah that’s definitely a bummer. You could probably resell it for most of what you paid I would think?

I wonder if Apple got tired of people returning its leather cases and bands because they developed a patina within a week or two and switched to something more treated that would maintain its appearance. Honestly though, it you can put brown shoe polish on it and not change the color of the band even a little, I’m not sure we can call it leather any more. It’s certainly not the premium leather Apple marketing is making it out to be.
 
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nycgeo

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Leather products are a mystery wrapped in a riddle. I worked in the leather products industry (mass market and high end) for years and can attest that "reality" is an illusion, and virtually anything claimed by a brand/manufacturer is disputable or an outright lie. For example, the term "genuine leather" means precisely the opposite (as an industry term) than the public thinks it means (TL;DR its not genuine). I wont get into it, but you can research that to be amazed and disgusted simultaneously.

That said, I have zero faith in leather products that arent hand made in a country that has high manufacturing standards (such as full-grain hand crafted goods made in USA). A watch band like this leather link (I own two LL fyi) is a finely designed composite of a bunch of different materials to make a band that wont fall apart easily with heavy use, with its thin and gracile construction, implanted magnets with little margin around, and painted with a PU edge. There may be a layer of "top grain" leather on the very surface, which is the very top of the animal skin (most durable, patina-able and costly), but its razor thin at best, and non-existent at worst. How can this be? Well, the lower layers of skin can be painted and embossed to appear as top-grain leather (the user can almost never tell).

Lastly, regarding the specific issue of Patina, leathers can be treated or painted with a variety of petroleum or plant based chemicals to resist wear and patina. This is in the best interest of a company beset by uneducated customers (apple users) and goes a long way towards preventing returns. Apple likely decided to add more durability based additives and materials to keep this $100 band from failing with use. The casualty of that is patina, as patina is a mark of vulnerability or oil-absorption capability, that will over time disrupt the glues and materials that went into the complicated stack of thin materials that make the LL band.
 
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sean000

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Yeah that’s definitely a bummer. You could probably resell it for most of what you paid I would think?

I wonder if Apple got tired of people returning its leather cases and bands because they developed a patina within a week or two and switched to something more treated that would maintain its appearance. Honestly though, it you can put brown shoe polish on it and not change the color of the band even a little, I’m not sure we can call it leather any more. It’s certainly not the premium leather Apple marketing is making it out to be.
This thread made my decision easier. I will probably still get a leather link, but will likely just stick with black. The saddle brown was in the running, assuming it would patina. I would also like the blue as long as it developed a patina with some blue wearing to black.

Something that might work is to just rub the saddle brown leather band with your fingers while watching TV or something. The sweatier your hands, the better. Eventually the finish may wear down enough to allow some darkening. Kinda gross, but you can always clean it with some mild soap followed by a damp cloth to remove the soap. Let it dry and then rub in some leather conditioner (something made for watch bands that doesn't have any skin-irritating ingredients). Go slow or test on part of the band that won't show. Either that or embrace the lighter color of new leather and see what happens over time.
 

nycgeo

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I would stray away from rubbing oils deliberately into this type of product. The glues that keep it together and operational can be disrupted by excessive oils. Skin oil wouldn’t seep too deeply into the surface to damage the glues (also this was most definitely tested rigorously). Purposely adding oil may be risky.
 
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FenC

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Don’t own this band. But, there has been quite a bit of chatter over on the iPhone leather case thread about how the saddle brown cases for the iPhone 12 are not developing a patina like in years past. I wonder if Apple has started treating their leather products more/differently this year. If so, that’s a shame.
Hmm, I didn’t want to see that. My Saddle Brown 12 Pro Max case looks like a lump of clay and I’m almost regretting not going for black. That said I think it’s only 2 (maybe 3) weeks old and it’s definitely starting to ‘go’ on the corners on the screen side. It might be just as well as my wallet only arrived yesterday so this way if they do get patina they will hopefully do it together.

On that, I am wary I’ll end up with a light patch on the back of the phone case if I use it on there too much, but the magnet is stronger than I expected so it’s easy to leave it on.
 

mavis

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Somehow I missed the replies to this post. 🤔

I decided to stick with the band, and it's grown on me. I also have a black LL but this brown one is the one that I keep using. I'm hoping it develops a patina in time, and darkens a bit, but in the meantime I'm still kind of diggin' it. 😅
 
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DiegoVLatam

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I think mine has gotten a little darker, I am attaching 2 photos. The first one is from November 17th and the second one from today. Unfortunately it is impossible to replicate the same picture conditions since I had to use different cameras for each one.
 

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