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LFC2020

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Anyone wants to know how long a base model M1 MacBook Pro takes to boot up to login screen, took me roughly 10 seconds. ???

Sleep to wake is instant, open the lid just a little bit and the screen is on.
 

adrianlondon

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I've just checked my Intel 2020 Air.

11 seconds from opening the lid to login prompt (with filevault enabled). Around 9 from the chime. Sleep to wake is instant.

Do you have filevault on? In other words, is it *after* you log in that the progress bar appears? If so, then it's no faster than my Air. If the progress bar is *before* the log in screen (such that logging in gets you to the desktop pretty much instantly) then it's much, much faster.

How long from hitting enter after your password until the desktop appears? That'd be a good test, as my i5 Air seems no faster than my old 2013 Pro.
 

LFC2020

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Do you have filevault on? In other words, is it *after* you log in that the progress bar appears? If so, then it's no faster than my Air. If the progress bar is *before* the log in screen (such that logging in gets you to the desktop pretty much instantly) then it's much, much faster.
Firevalt is on, roughly 10 seconds to login screen, haven’t tested how long it takes logging in, do that tomorrow, in bed now ?


My intel MacBook use to take forever to get to the login screen. ?‍♂️?
 

kecinzer

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On my MacBook Air M1, there are two boot stages. First takes long time to get to FileVault login screen. After I put my password, boot is very quick.
I just don't know why is there that first stage, that takes much time.
 
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Quackers

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On my MacBook Air M1, there are two boot stages. First takes long time to get to FileVault login screen. After I put my password, boot is very quick.
I just don't know why is there that first stage, that takes much time.
Do you have a lot of apps loading at startup?
System Preferences -> Users & Groups -> login items
 
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On my MacBook Air M1, there are two boot stages. First takes long time to get to FileVault login screen. After I put my password, boot is very quick.
I just don't know why is there that first stage, that takes much time.
The two-stage boot is due to File Vault. One to boot the main OS, the second stage to unlock your File Vault, load your (encrypted) user profile, then auto-start any apps you've configured to do so.
 
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xraydoc

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That doesn't sound right. How can it boot the main OS when the disk is encrypted prior to entering the filevault password?
Only your user profile is encrypted. Otherwise every user on the machine would have to enter the same decryption password. Each user gets their own File Vault container with an independent decryption password.
The boot loader and base OS is unencrypted. If they weren't, the computer would have to ask for a master password immediately upon powering up. But this is not referring to any encryption the M1 applies to the SSD as a whole, using a key that is otherwise inaccessible to the user(s) of the machine.
 
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adrianlondon

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Filevault can be unlocked by more than one password. Creating a new user autmatically adds that user as one whose password also unlocks Filevault. Users created prior to enabling Filevault have an "Enable User" option in Settings / Security & Privacy / Filevault after unlocking the options.

Adding or removing users can also be done manually.

Do M1 Macs work differently to Intel ones wrt Filevault? My comments are all related to Intel ones, as that's what I have.
 
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kecinzer

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Do you have a lot of apps loading at startup?
System Preferences -> Users & Groups -> login items
No, asi I mentioned, the second stage of boot (after I put in my password) is very fast. Only the first stage, when I see Apple logo on black background is slow.

When I had Mac Book Pro 15" 2014, I also had enabled FileVault2 and first boot stage takes about 1 or 2 seconds.
 

reasonrulaz

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Hi - are the apps loading really instant as they claimed at the event?
Actually, I cannot say that programs open instantly on MBP M1. Most of apps (MS Office apps, Foxit PDF, Affinity photos, MS Edge, Firefox etc..) launch takes more than 5-6 secs or more. When it loaded on RAM, of course open instantly after that. But my expectations about M1 Mac's app "first" launch time did not meet. It was a disappointment for me, especially considering it had such a enormous fast transfer speeds.
 

AAPLGeek

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Actually, I cannot say that programs open instantly on MBP M1. Most of apps (MS Office apps, Foxit PDF, Affinity photos, MS Edge, Firefox etc..) launch takes more than 5-6 secs or more. When it loaded on RAM, of course open instantly after that. But my expectations about M1 Mac's app "first" launch time did not meet. It was a disappointment for me, especially considering it had such a enormous fast transfer speeds.

Same here.

The only major apps that open instantly are Safari and Firefox.

Apple's own iWork apps - Pages, Numbers and Keynote take at least 3 bounces to launch after a cold boot. My ancient 2012 MacBook Pro with iWork '09 takes less than half a bounce to open the apps and those older versions are far more functional.
 

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A fresh install yesterday. First boot (or second after the re-installation) took 10,02 seconds from pressing Enter at the login screen until Desktop was fully loaded/ready.
 

adrianlondon

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This is my ultra speed boot to FileVault2 login...
That's weird. The progress line is because your machine is booting up. However, it can't boot until the drive has been unlocked.

Do you boot from an external drive? Are you sure FileVault is fully enabled?

My machine doesn't have any progress bar until *after* I've logged in. My old Pro was the same until I disabled FileVault after which the progress bar now looks like yours.
 

kecinzer

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I don't have any other kext. I have full security enabled that prevent other kext to load.
May be there are some hick up? Some SMC reset or something else will help? I don't want to make clean install again.

I didn't restore any backup or do any migration after I bought this MacBook. Just clean install.
I don't have any external drive. System is on internal one.
 
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chabig

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What is normal? The machine boots to a login screen, then to your account. That's normal. There is no specification for doing it in a certain amount of time.
 
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