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GiveYourOpinion

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I am seeking a method to completely disable/cripple/break iCloud. Thus far, I don't see an "icloud app" to block in a firewall, or something; that would be preferable to nothing.

Alternatively, if there is an official list of IP address the manufacturer uses, exclusively, for iCloud, I will even block those in the absence of anything preferable.

If you are aware of any method(s), great, tell me; if you aren't, no problem, have a good weekend.
 

themidge

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Why would you need to do this? Is this to avoid iCloud access from within your network? If you users have managed devices, you could disable it through MDM.
 

GiveYourOpinion

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Why would you need to do this?
Hello. That is beyond the scope of the first post in this thread. Especially, this early on in this thread, I would rather just have an answer that describes how to "completely disable/cripple/break iCloud". If you do not know the answer, I understand
 

BrianBaughn

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It would be my guess that the list of connections to iCloud services isn't static…so it's very possible that today's list could be out of date tomorrow.

Little Snitch is site-specific connection blocking software. I don't know how to get more control than with that.
 

GiveYourOpinion

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It would be my guess that the list of connections to iCloud services isn't static…so it's very possible that today's list could be out of date tomorrow.

Little Snitch is site-specific connection blocking software. I don't know how to get more control than with that.
I appreciate the reply. I will need to try a version of Little Snitch that is compatible w/ my Macs that have iCloud. Not being able to look in the Applications folder and see an "iCloud.app" I can block w/ Little Snitch or similar software, as I do on Macs running os (x) versions that do not have iCloud, confused me. I hope Little Snitch demo's still permit use in 3 hour intervals.

As i indicated in the first post, any method to disable or block iCloud is preferable to none, for me; I prefer blocking apps, themselves, though, where possible.
 

BrianBaughn

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I appreciate the reply. I will need to try a version of Little Snitch that is compatible w/ my Macs that have iCloud. Not being able to look in the Applications folder and see an "iCloud.app" I can block w/ Little Snitch or similar software, as I do on Macs running os (x) versions that do not have iCloud, confused me. I hope Little Snitch demo's still permit use in 3 hour intervals.

As i indicated in the first post, any method to disable or block iCloud is preferable to none, for me; I prefer blocking apps, themselves, though, where possible.
Once you've tried Little Snitch you'll see that it's not that simple for macOS related stuff. The description given may or may not indicate what service is behind the attempted connection. Some research should clarify what a particular connection is trying to do.

The good thing is that the Little Snitch rules you create are editable…so fixes are easy.

I have to admit that assisting on this feels a little like helping someone find RF-blocking clothes.
 

GiveYourOpinion

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[a.] Once you've tried Little Snitch you'll see that it's not that simple for macOS related stuff.

[b.] The good thing is that the Little Snitch rules you create are editable…so fixes are easy.
a.) I have been using versions of os x that do not have iCloud, along w/ Little Snitch and firewall(s), for years; many years. That is why I did not, in the absence of an "iCloud.app', visible in the Applications folder, attempt to block iCloud "site-connections" w/ Little Snitch, to start. .... I did not feel it would be sufficiently effective; at least, not effective enough for my requirements.

b.) If my "site-connection", or ip address, blocking is incomplete, and whatever particular app, iCloud in this instance, successfully connects via a "site-connection", or ip address, I was not aware of to block, then, the damage is already done, at that point; that is why, historically, I have preferred to take what has always seemed, to me, the simplest course of action by blocking the app, itself.

Since you mentioned Little Snitch I intend to try it, in this particular instance, and see what it does, though. Thx for mentioning Little Snitch and have a nice weekend.
 
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Mike Boreham

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Maybe a bit late, but does simply not signing in with your Apple ID not have the same effect ?

No iCloud functions will work if you don't sign in.
 
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GiveYourOpinion

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I am seeking a method to completely disable/cripple/break iCloud.
Maybe a bit late, but does simply not signing in with your Apple ID not have the same effect ?
That is not what I have in mind. As far as being "a bit late", I don't believe I have ever put a time limit on a thread I started. To me, a reply is a reply; whether it came thirty seconds or thirty months after I started the thread.

So, thx for stopping by and you have a great Sunday and a nice week.
 

GiveYourOpinion

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Signing out s not relevant to what I, the thread starter, have in mind, nor did I refer to any problem that can be solved by signing out.

If you are someone who has a problem and it is solved by doing that, then, I am happy that you have fixed your problem. I am a different person than you, wiho, by definition, has objectives that, likely, are different than yours.

If you do not know how to "completely disable/cripple/break iCloud", then, you don't. I started the thread in an effort to find a person that does.

Have a good Sunday.
 
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MarkC426

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To enable people to help you fully, maybe provide additional information.

So you don't want Apple Mail/App Store/iTunes Store/software updates.....?
For any of these you need to sign in.

 

GiveYourOpinion

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The original post with which I started this thread is sufficient, for me, to succinctly express what I have in mind.

People all over the world do myriad different things to their computers, their motorcycles, their automobiles, their bodies, and so on, and, certainly, they make modifications others might not have made, or thought of making, to the software running on their computers. I am just one of those people. Like I always say, "You do you and I'll do me".

If a particular person does not know how to do what I asked in the first post, then, they don't know how to do what I have in mind, in this particular instance. No big deal and no shame in that; I would not expect them to start "talking" much about what they do not know.

There are an enormous number of people who have started threads on these, and other, forums. Reading, just within the last week, or so, it is clear, to me, a significant percentage of them have never gotten answers to questions they asked, after months and, perhaps, years. I do not expect, or want, any particular person to be anymore, doggedly, interested in trying to reply, here, when they don't know in the first place, to the humble thread I started, than any of all the other unanswered threads. There is absolutely zero reason, afterall, why they should be doggedly interested in trying to reply, here.

I am not interested in going, substantially, beyond my question in the first post. If someone wants more, or needs "more information", than what is contained in the first post, then, it is not likely they will have, or want to share, that for which I am looking. For me, for example, it is sufficient, if I wanted to do so, to say, "I want to change the color of my tongue to iridescent green". I would not be interested, at all, in delving into my own particular reasons or motivations for wanting to do so anymore than delving into my own particular motivations for, say, otherwise, modifying my own body, the body for which I paid a lot of my own sweat and money. If a particular person knows how to do the modification, and wants to share that knowledge with me, then, they have what I want ... same goes for what I asked in the first post of this thread... not interested in going, substantially, beyond that. If I want someone to tell me how to paint my kitchen "rainbow multidimensional sparkly stripe", then, succinctly, that is what I want; not interested, in that particular instance, in someone who wants to ask me why I want to paint my kitchen so I can "enable ...[them]... to help me fully" (??) or asking me what are my motivations. ... not interested, in this particular instance, in debating with someone who might, or might not, be thinking in terms of some type of "Freudian" stuff.

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If a particular bloke, or gal, reads my first post, here, and decides they will not reply, because I have, somehow, not enabled them, as a person, to "help ...[me] ... fully" (??), then, by definition, they don't have what I want and I am fine with that; no problem, at all.

There is a means to do what I asked in the first post of this thread, just like all the other hardware and software modifications people, all over the world, have made; many of them modifications that may never have came to mind, for me. If you don't know how to do what I asked in the first post of this thread, then, you don't have what I want ... not interested, in this particular thread, in debating my desires, wants, or motivations.

For me, it is clear, you will not have want I want, Mark. Have a great day.

Its Sunday, and I am going to ride my highly modified, super high horsepower, bike out to a particular spot to fish, before the convention starts. Therefore, I am going to get back to anticipating how much I will soon be enjoying riding, and, then, not catching any fish ... so I will be in just the right state to enjoy the convention. My girl always wants me to wear the helmet I don't want to wear; so, I need to leave before she gets here, from church, to start cooking. Its Sunday and my super bike, and a really good fishing spot, is calling;

... so, Bye ...
 

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There are an enormous number of people who have started threads on these, and other, forums. Reading, just within the last week, or so, it is clear, to me, a significant percentage of them have never gotten answers to questions they asked, after months and, perhaps, years.

It is also true that a significant number of people ask the wrong question. A little probing reveals their problem and what the solution is.

In this a case a person (apparently but I accept maybe not) new to Macs asks how to cripple a major feature of the Mac experience, there was a good likelihood that the real answer might be something different.
 
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James_C

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You have two options

If you don’t want to use any of iCloud’s services at all, you can disable it entirely by signing out from your device settings. It’s important to note that doing this also disables the security features that stop other people from activating your device and using it as their own.

If you’re certain you want to completely disable iCloud, follow these steps.

Open the System Preferences and click on Apple ID.
Select the Overview page from the sidebar and click Sign Out.
Choose what data to download and keep on your Mac.


The other option is to disable iCloud syncing to all of the  Apps.

Open the System Preferences and click Apple ID.
Select iCloud from the sidebar and uncheck all the services.

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Unfortunately if you try and disable iCloud by blocking access without doing the above then you may get frequent messages that you Mac can't connect to the service, as iCloud is pretty much part of the OS these days (certainly one of the main tent poles of using Mac OS to have a connected eco-system to all your devices), rather than a single App.

Truth be told if it that critical to you, you may be better off looking for an alternative OS.
 

MarkC426

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With a lack of any kind of info, we are all clutching at straws.
Is it iPhone/iPad, is it Mac, which OS version.
 
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planteater

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The original post with which I started this thread is sufficient, for me, to succinctly express what I have in mind.

People all over the world do myriad different things to their computers, their motorcycles, their automobiles, their bodies, and so on, and, certainly, they make modifications others might not have made, or thought of making, to the software running on their computers. I am just one of those people. Like I always say, "You do you and I'll do me".

If a particular person does not know how to do what I asked in the first post, then, they don't know how to do what I have in mind, in this particular instance. No big deal and no shame in that; I would not expect them to start "talking" much about what they do not know.

There are an enormous number of people who have started threads on these, and other, forums. Reading, just within the last week, or so, it is clear, to me, a significant percentage of them have never gotten answers to questions they asked, after months and, perhaps, years. I do not expect, or want, any particular person to be anymore, doggedly, interested in trying to reply, here, when they don't know in the first place, to the humble thread I started, than any of all the other unanswered threads. There is absolutely zero reason, afterall, why they should be doggedly interested in trying to reply, here.

I am not interested in going, substantially, beyond my question in the first post. If someone wants more, or needs "more information", than what is contained in the first post, then, it is not likely they will have, or want to share, that for which I am looking. For me, for example, it is sufficient, if I wanted to do so, to say, "I want to change the color of my tongue to iridescent green". I would not be interested, at all, in delving into my own particular reasons or motivations for wanting to do so anymore than delving into my own particular motivations for, say, otherwise, modifying my own body, the body for which I paid a lot of my own sweat and money. If a particular person knows how to do the modification, and wants to share that knowledge with me, then, they have what I want ... same goes for what I asked in the first post of this thread... not interested in going, substantially, beyond that. If I want someone to tell me how to paint my kitchen "rainbow multidimensional sparkly stripe", then, succinctly, that is what I want; not interested, in that particular instance, in someone who wants to ask me why I want to paint my kitchen so I can "enable ...[them]... to help me fully" (??) or asking me what are my motivations. ... not interested, in this particular instance, in debating with someone who might, or might not, be thinking in terms of some type of "Freudian" stuff.

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If a particular bloke, or gal, reads my first post, here, and decides they will not reply, because I have, somehow, not enabled them, as a person, to "help ...[me] ... fully" (??), then, by definition, they don't have what I want and I am fine with that; no problem, at all.

There is a means to do what I asked in the first post of this thread, just like all the other hardware and software modifications people, all over the world, have made; many of them modifications that may never have came to mind, for me. If you don't know how to do what I asked in the first post of this thread, then, you don't have what I want ... not interested, in this particular thread, in debating my desires, wants, or motivations.

For me, it is clear, you will not have want I want, Mark. Have a great day.

Its Sunday, and I am going to ride my highly modified, super high horsepower, bike out to a particular spot to fish, before the convention starts. Therefore, I am going to get back to anticipating how much I will soon be enjoying riding, and, then, not catching any fish ... so I will be in just the right state to enjoy the convention. My girl always wants me to wear the helmet I don't want to wear; so, I need to leave before she gets here, from church, to start cooking. Its Sunday and my super bike, and a really good fishing spot, is calling;

... so, Bye ...
Take a pill man.
 
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