Photographers who shoot some Video

[BJMRamage]

Hello,

This is more a Video question but one that is from an amateur photographer's POV.

I shoot mostly Photos with my DSLR (99.5%) but with my iPhone I shoot some videos too. I am currently still using Apple Aperture (I know stupid of me, i should move on...) I can import photos and videos into this DAM and see them all in one place, allowing me to trim a video and post pictures and a video somewhere if I would like.

Do any photogs out there shoot any [short] videos and where do you keep those? Would you just place them into iMovie (or similar) and keep them apart from the photos...do you store them in a unified DAM?


Thanks in advance. I am trying to figure out a solution to my need to move on from Aperture and unsure which direction to go.

 

[kenoh]

I rarely shoot video but the ones i have are imported into my lightroom library next to the images. I manually find them and edit as needed. I take 3-4 vids a year though so YMMV

 

[anotherscotsman]

Hello,

This is more a Video question but one that is from an amateur photographer's POV.

I shoot mostly Photos with my DSLR (99.5%) but with my iPhone I shoot some videos too. I am currently still using Apple Aperture (I know stupid of me, i should move on...) I can import photos and videos into this DAM and see them all in one place, allowing me to trim a video and post pictures and a video somewhere if I would like.

Do any photogs out there shoot any [short] videos and where do you keep those? Would you just place them into iMovie (or similar) and keep them apart from the photos...do you store them in a unified DAM?


Thanks in advance. I am trying to figure out a solution to my need to move on from Aperture and unsure which direction to go.

I’m principally a photo shooter but do the odd DSLR video. I use Capture One for photo editing and iMovie for video editing. I tend to keep the videos along with related photos in the relevant Capture One ‘session’ rather than ‘catalogue’. Makes sense for me.

 

[CmdrLaForge]

I have my videos in FCPX but would use iMove if I wouldn’t own it. For my pictures I use Aperture as you do. I do not think its a great idea to keep both in the same. Blows up the entire library. Now if you do very few videos it may not matter but as soon as you shoot more it becomes an issue.

 

[Ledgem]

I've been doing more video since going mirrorless, although a good amount of my video is still shot on iPhone (largely because H.265 that the iPhone now encodes with is roughly half the size of H.264 that my mirrorless camera is still using). For me, I migrated away from Aperture and over to Photos, and Photos has been my receptacle for photos and videos... I do my video editing with Final Cut Pro, which can reference videos from Photos, and once a project is finished I export it and keep it in Photos as well.

I'm now switching to Capture One Pro for better RAW editing, because Photos still hasn't reached Aperture's level and it's holding me back. I'm still sort of wrangling over how to manage two DAMs... my current thinking is to import all RAWs into Capture One, keep them in the catalog there, and then export the processed images as JPEGs into Photos, ultimately using Photos as the viewer and for sharing. A bit more complicated... we'll see how it goes.

 

[mofunk]

If you have a Mac just open up Image Capture and import your video from there. I'm like you and shoot mostly still but occasionally I will import a video. I usually create a folder for videos and just export it to what ever app I want use. For quick edits I'll use Quicktime. If I need more then its iMovie. Just like any creative app, I would start small before moving to something more advance. Keep working in iMovie, if you feel you need more then check out other like Capture One or any of the Adobe video apps.


I wish Apple kept Final Cut Express.

 

[BJMRamage]

I'm now switching to Capture One Pro for better RAW editing, because Photos still hasn't reached Aperture's level and it's holding me back. I'm still sort of wrangling over how to manage two DAMs... my current thinking is to import all RAWs into Capture One, keep them in the catalog there, and then export the processed images as JPEGs into Photos, ultimately using Photos as the viewer and for sharing. A bit more complicated... we'll see how it goes.

Thanks everyone for the replies and insight!

I am quoting the above because there is a part of me that thinks if I cannot fully use Photos to the best of its abilities (as I could with Aperture editing) then perhaps I use another DAM. and then save out my 4-5 starred photos into my Photos library and THAT can be shared so I am not sharing an entire photo history...and I could then save out JPGs for Photos to use less space.

 

[peteypab2133]

I will chime in. I shoot about 70/30 (photo/video)

I used to rock all nikon gear (couple D750's and a D4) and all the glass. Because nothing took "great" video, and auto focus was horrible I had a Sony Ax100 4k camcorder.

I would use FCPX to edit those video, and foolishly would save them in pro-res 422. File size for a 10-20 minute video was like 30+ gigs.

Now I sold all my nikon gear and went Sony A7III and plan to get the new S model next year (pending it has 4k60 finally)


I mix between the 3 softwares. FCPX, Premier Pro, iMovie depending on how much i plan to do to the movie.

For my holiday movies, I just plug them into iMovie, add some titles, transitions and save them as mp4's. These hour long files range between 10-20 gigs each in 4k.

For more indepth videos that I shoot in Slog that I want to appear more cinematic I use Premier Pro for layers and raw editing.

I am not a pro video guy by any means, but have had good success with the above.

 

[Alexander.Of.Oz]

I'm all about simplicity, I have been of late shooting some video of my explorations of decrepit buildings & places. I capture probably 80% photo's & 20% video's (iPhone 8+ 4K 60fps on a handheld 3 axis gimbal).

Here's my workflow:

• Import photo's to Lightroom (you can use its DAM for free & edit in Camera Raw, which is downloadable for free if you search for it on Adobe's site)
• Import video to Photos
• Edit photo's (Lightroom, Photoshop & Auto PanoGiga)
• Export photo's
  
• Edit video's in iMovie (it's actually surprisingly capable, with all manner of features you don't initially expect for a free app)
• Export video's at larger format, then use Handbrake (free) to compress to smaller formats for online sharing

As I said, I like to keep it all simple.

 

[F-Train]

• Export video's at larger format, then use Handbrake (free) o compress to smaller formats for online sharing

As I said, I like to keep it all simple.

I'm willing to bet that you'd find the new 64-bit Compressor (US$50 from the App Store) a lot faster than Handbrake.

 

[Alexander.Of.Oz]

I'm willing to bet that you'd find the new 64-bit Compressor (US$50 from the App Store) a lot faster than Handbrake.

Handbrake has been 64 bit for ages & is extremely fast already, I don't need to spend $50 to save a minute, others might, so thanks for the mention of it.

*** Update ***
Thanks @F-Train for mentioning Compressor. After some research, I have discovered that for my old 2011 iMac quad-core i5, Compressor is exponentially slower for H264 exports! For newer machines with the technicalities that the newer versions of Compressor are designed for, Compressor is better at other format exports, but still not for H264 exports, as it doesn't use X264, but other methods, which give consistently better results for other formats.

Very interesting!

 

[F-Train]

Handbrake has been 64 bit for ages & is extremely fast already, I don't need to spend $50 to save a minute, others might, so thanks for the mention of it.

*** Update ***
Thanks @F-Train for mentioning Compressor. After some research, I have discovered that for my old 2011 iMac quad-core i5, Compressor is exponentially slower for H264 exports! For newer machines with the technicalities that the newer versions of Compressor are designed for, Compressor is better at other format exports, but still not for H264 exports, as it doesn't use X264, but other methods, which give consistently better results for other formats.

Very interesting!

I raised it because I've used both programmes and I'm very impressed with the new Compressor's capability and integration with Mac OS.

I'm sorry that I opened my mouth.

 

[RCAFBrat]

I raised it because I've used both programmes and I'm very impressed with the new Compressor's capability and integration with Mac OS.

I'm sorry that I opened my mouth.

Don't be sorry, without you having contributed I wouldn't have know about Compressor's improvements!

Cheers

 

[Alexander.Of.Oz]

I'm sorry that I opened my mouth.

Okay, you've lost me there! I wasn't having a go at you in any way, I was genuinely thanking you for mentioning Compressor, as it ended up with me seeing that for newer technology than what I have it is better for a multitude of things, just not necessarily for H264 exports, that's all I wrote.

Just because it isn't any better for my needs, doesn't mean it's no good for others needs.