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jwolf6589

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My critics are gonna have a heyday with this one but a while back someone here mentioned a website with all kinds of cameras, camcorders, lens, and other photography gear and I just can't find it and I have done multiple google searches. I have noticed that the price of my own camcorder has gone up by several hundred dollars (at least on amazon) probably because the P&S market is vanishing due to phones.But amazon is not a camera based website so encase my Powershot or Camcorder break I need backup units, and perhaps the website with photography gear may be much cheaper than sites like Amazon. My critics claim that I poo poo smartphones. This is not true, I just prefer a regular camera, but do realize phones are very powerful and why I carry mine with me everywhere.
 
Probably the two photography websites are B&H Photo and Adorama...but there are many others. But as far as finding them much cheaper than sites like Amazon...don't count on it. There is a reason that the price is the same everywhere. It is the manufacturer controlling the price - and authorized sale prices - as a condition of being in its authorized dealer network which also includes factory warranty coverage. Lower prices are typically through dealers NOT part of the authorized dealer network, lacking warranty coverage, and generally referred to as gray market. Same exact produce off the same factory line but not obtained your country's factory distributor supply line to its authorized dealers who actually creates the warranty - which differs from county to country. I noticed that when I played exchange rates and purchased a lens from Canada and the accompanying warranty was significantly more generous that that provided through Sony USA. One thing to be aware of with Amazon and others that have aggregated shops, be careful who is "sold by." While Amazon may be an authorized dealer, sold by XYZ Camera Store may not be.

Manufacturer's price control actually does a disservice to their authorized dealers where they can't even follow a business plan. If they want to have a sale of X% everything in the store...they can't, and you see the fine print disclaimer excluding a list of brands. Similar happened to me at Home Depot where, as a veteran I get 10% discount on everything until I went to buy a Honda lawnmower...and Honda prohibited the discount. As a consumer, it has really changed the game on purchases with prices the same everywhere, it doesn't matter where you buy it and with States aggressively enforcing tax collection it eliminated the 6.5% "savings" at B&H. (Personally, I think States have it backwards - but that is a whole different issue). As a consumer, price control and tax together neutralizes local vs online decision, and comes down to what secondary benefits apply that sweeten the deal. For me, it comes down to a variety of veteran benefits and some cash back credit cards or store programs, such as Best Buy's rewards program.
 
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Probably the two photography websites are B&H Photo and Adorama...but there are many others. But as far as finding them much cheaper than sites like Amazon...don't count on it. There is a reason that the price is the same everywhere. It is the manufacturer controlling the price - and authorized sale prices - as a condition of being in its authorized dealer network which also includes factory warranty coverage. Lower prices are typically through dealers NOT part of the authorized dealer network, lacking warranty coverage, and generally referred to as gray market. Same exact produce off the same factory line but not obtained your country's factory distributor supply line to its authorized dealers who actually creates the warranty - which differs from county to country. I noticed that when I played exchange rates and purchased a lens from Canada and the accompanying warranty was significantly more generous that that provided through Sony USA. One thing to be aware of with Amazon and others that have aggregated shops, be careful who is "sold by." While Amazon may be an authorized dealer, sold by XYZ Camera Store may not be.

Manufacturer's price control actually does a disservice to their authorized dealers where they can't even follow a business plan. If they want to have a sale of X% everything in the store...they can't, and you see the fine print disclaimer excluding a list of brands. Similar happened to me at Home Depot where, as a veteran I get 10% discount on everything until I went to buy a Honda lawnmower...and Honda prohibited the discount. As a consumer, it has really changed the game on purchases with prices the same everywhere, it doesn't matter where you buy it and with States aggressively enforcing tax collection it eliminated the 6.5% "savings" at B&H. (Personally, I think States have it backwards - but that is a whole different issue). As a consumer, price control and tax together neutralizes local vs online decision, and comes down to what secondary benefits apply that sweeten the deal. For me, it comes down to a variety of veteran benefits and some cash back credit cards or store programs, such as Best Buy's rewards program.
Our purchases in the UK have 20% tax added to them.
 
Our purchases in the UK have 20% tax added to them.
well we also pay state (and perhaps local) taxes in addition to the posted price, but usually it's more in the neighborhood of 6%. That VAT stuff you guys pay is insane.
 
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Our purchases in the UK have 20% tax added to them.
Technically, it is not "added to them." The marked price is the price you pay as the VAT is included in that price. In the States, the marked price is the starting point as the sales tax is added on at the point of purchase. Locally, if something $100, the actual cost is $106.50. Typically not a problem, but if you only have $1 cash on you and have to have that $0.99 candy bar...it will ring up as $1.06 and you won't have enough money.
 
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Boy has photo tech improved vastly over the years. When I was a teenager everyone used film cameras and tape based camcorders. People around here wonder why I shoot video in FULL HD instead of 4K and believe me even full HD is vastly better than the old VHS-C, and 8mm tapes that I grew up with!
 
Technically, it is not "added to them." The marked price is the price you pay as the VAT is included in that price. In the States, the marked price is the starting point as the sales tax is added on at the point of purchase. Locally, if something $100, the actual cost is $106.50. Typically not a problem, but if you only have $1 cash on you and have to have that $0.99 candy bar...it will ring up as $1.06 and you won't have enough money.
Sorry my bad wording, yes the price we see has already had the 20% added. It is still 20% tax added on though. Difference is you see it before tax, we see it after tax.

Yes living in the states I gave up trying to work out how much anything cost. Travelling all over and having different taxes for state and sales tax just wasnt worth the brain power to work out.
 
well we also pay state (and perhaps local) taxes in addition to the posted price, but usually it's more in the neighborhood of 6%. That VAT stuff you guys pay is insane.
I suppose they have to pay for national health care....(not to start a debate)

I have used KEH.com for two lenses and my low-mid tier camera...(Nikon 7500). excellence service and all work and look like brand new.
 
I suppose they have to pay for national health care....(not to start a debate)

I have used KEH.com for two lenses and my low-mid tier camera...(Nikon 7500). excellence service and all work and look like brand new.
That is paid from our income tax and they are raising it another 1.5% from next year


We hear good things about keh over here
 
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That is paid from our income tax and they are raising it another 1.5% from next year


We hear good things about keh over here
Good to know how the HC is finance..thanks.

And to stay on topic, I would assume KEH does not ship internationally?
 
I usually buy my gear at one of the few local camera shops we have left in the DC area; if none of them has what I want then I go online to B&H and order from them. Usually it is accessories that the local shops may be temporarily or permanently out of stock in, especially if the item(s) tend to be rather specialized. When I was preparing to buy my Sony A1 I checked everybody's inventory and saw that they were all (temporarily) out of the CFexpress Type A card that I would be needing, so ordered that from B&H, which did have it in the capacity I wanted. That way on the day I was actually buying my camera I didn't have to worry if the shop did or didn't have that type of memory card available, as I already had one ready to go at home.

A couple of times I've gotten lenses from B&H when the local shops simply didn't have them available, either because they were so popular that they flew off the shelf instantly or because they were a brand that wasn't in inventory in the first place.
 
My critics are gonna have a heyday with this one but a while back someone here mentioned a website with all kinds of cameras, camcorders, lens, and other photography gear and I just can't find it and I have done multiple google searches. I have noticed that the price of my own camcorder has gone up by several hundred dollars (at least on amazon) probably because the P&S market is vanishing due to phones.But amazon is not a camera based website so encase my Powershot or Camcorder break I need backup units, and perhaps the website with photography gear may be much cheaper than sites like Amazon. My critics claim that I poo poo smartphones. This is not true, I just prefer a regular camera, but do realize phones are very powerful and why I carry mine with me everywhere.
Here’s the thread you are looking for. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/links-for-camera-and-lens-shoppers.257862/
You don’t need to start a new thread every week. You post more threads than photos!
 
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