Thanks! Really appreciate your thoughts. Drove the GTI last weekend and came away impressed. Congrats on yours!
Hi Spencers, if I am not mistaken you drive a BMW today. Thought I'd share my opinion, coming from an E46 330Ci and Mini Cooper S.
Faced the same dilemma late last year. VW released the GTI Clubsport here in Europe, and I fell in love. Went to the showroom so many times, I can't even remember. I had to have one. It looked fantastic with its aero bits, alcantara steering wheel and RECARO seats. Even though it was nearly approaching Golf R money, I was confident that the Clubsport was the only choice. Lower weight, nearly the same power figures and a philosophy akin to Porsche's GT cars. I did not even consider the R.
Went to the dealership late September. Clubsport deliveries had not yet started, so I got to borrow the regular GTI with Performance Pack (230ps and optional diff). Initial impressions were really good, nice sounding engine and smooth performance. I normally hate automatic gearboxes but the DSG was lovely. Tried launch control and it was a quick car. It never really took my breath away, however.
Took the car to some local country roads. As much good as I had been reading about the front electronic diff (XDS I think it's called), I was surprised at the amount of understeer I experienced when pushing on. My Mini was a go-kart in comparison, you could really lean on it through the corners. The GTI on the other hand never gave me the same confidence. It understeered and pushed out of corners. Mind you, this was in the dry. Of course, you don't drive like a complete hooligan on a regular basis, but even accelerating from a stand still, there was more wheelspin than I found acceptable.
Moments later, the salesman urged me to try the Golf R. To be honest, I never really was in love with the styling of the R. Also, I was expecting it to be heavy and not as much fun as the GTI. Salesperson asked me to select "Race" mode and fire it up. With the four exhaust valves open, the sound was something else than the GTI. Sure, there is definitely some trickery going on, but I quite fancy it (if you don't, you can adjust it in the individual setting on the driver profiles). Moreover, the moment I rolled out of the lot, the R just felt a bit more premium than the GTI. The GTI is built in Mexico, whereas the R is built in Germany. It just felt more solid.
I don't know, but on the road it just felt like a completely different animal. While the GTI was quick, it never really gave me any thrills. The R on the other hand was seriously fast. On the same stretch of local country roads, the R just stuck to the road. It's crazy how quick it is thanks to the Haldex 4WD and DSG. It was so much more of an event than the GTI.
After leaving the dealership my mind was a mess. I always expected the GTI to be the more fun car. Turns out it wasn't (for me I should add). I started thinking there might have been something wrong with the GTI I got to borrow. Started watching YouTube videos, read reviews and comparisons. Found this:
See 7 month review. Eventually I found a Clubsport to test drive, but the experience was exactly the same.
Back in February, before the Facelift arrived, VW finally had an offer on the Golf R. At $10k off, let's just say I jumped on it! 300ps, 4WD, Dynaudio, Keyless Go, PDC, Reversing Camera, 19" wheels and more, it feels like I got a bargain. Come winter, the 4WD will do wonders. Moreover, in the R the ESP can be completely shut off (not the case in the GTI).
I don't know if any BMW fan remembers, but the E46 M3 did 0-62 in 5.2s, the 330Ci did it in 6.5s. Most people would find the difference between an M3 E46 and a 330Ci to be huge. The Golf R takes 4.9s to 62, the GTI 6.4s.
The GTI is a fantastic car in its own right. However, the R is just so much more of everything. Last but not least, everyone is right. If you choose the R, your license will be hanging by a very thin thread! ;-)
Here's one of my favorite Golf R videos: