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Why not?! My wife already has.
Only she says it with an edge of irritation.
Is your setup in a separate study, or in a living room etc? I know how my wife would feel if I had something like that in our living room
It's in the living room. Way back when, my six monitors were connected to a Quicksilver. My wife (to her regret) offered one wall of the living room to me, so I accepted.Is your setup in a separate study, or in a living room etc? I know how my wife would feel if I had something like that in our living room
When we moved to the new house, she again made the offer. Her main problem is the whole mashed up setup. None of the desks and stands match. I'm even using a fish tank stand. I hate that aspect too.
Eventually, as the kids leave for college, we get their rooms back. She gets a sitting room, additional closet again and I get a study. It was that way before kids.
Since 2003, my 'study' has been in the garage, which I can't really use much during 110º+ heat in Phoenix every summer.
We've just had daughters 2 and 3 (twins) so it's going to be a good long while before we get our own space like that!
Yep.We've just had daughters 2 and 3 (twins) so it's going to be a good long while before we get our own space like that!
I was where you are in 2003 and 2008. My son graduates from high school next year (he's a senior this year) so it's been a long haul.
Enjoy the time though. They get bigger - much bigger, LOL!!!
Hi everyone!
here's my beloved G5 20" isight and its brothers (iMac 27"mid 2010 and MacBook Air 11" early 2014).
Cheers from Brasil!
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here's my beloved G5 20" isight and its brothers (iMac 27"mid 2010 and MacBook Air 11" early 2014).
Cheers from Brasil!
#StaySafe
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This is my Powerpc setup. I also have a Powermac G4 Quicksilver under the desk that is connected to the Studio Display 17" on the right.
Powermac G5 has an Ati X850XT and 7GB ram, and the G4 has an Ati 9700 Pro. In this picture they play Unreal Tournament 2004 in multiplayer lan mode.
Powermac G5 has an Ati X850XT and 7GB ram, and the G4 has an Ati 9700 Pro. In this picture they play Unreal Tournament 2004 in multiplayer lan mode.
1st gen Mac mini, w/ 20" Apple Cinema Display. Both compliment each other.
Just wish I could find a classic keyboard for a good price. To the right is a wired Mighty Mouse.
Would you be interested in a white Pro Keyboard (the one that shipped with the iMac G4) with a Japanese QWERTY layout? Very good condition (no yellowed keys!) as rarely used.
Would rather prefer an English or US layout. I've seen them float on eBay for around £40/50.
Japanese is basically US (I'm using it with an US layout configured in OS X) with some extra keys that are irrelevant for the US layout. You could have it for 20 bucks plus shipping.
We have a large finished basement in our split level home. My father-in-law is living there, but oh, what I could do with that space otherwise...Is your setup in a separate study, or in a living room etc? I know how my wife would feel if I had something like that in our living room
I'd be able to leave my old Macs and my old Atari 800XL in place and not have to tear them down in the garage after every use. Not that I want to be rid of him -- plus, it is nice to have a live-in dog sitter when my wife and I are away!
This is mine
there is more in a closet with some G4/G5 towers and intel machines.
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This is mine
This is a thing of beauty
Model Name: Power Mac G4
Model Identifier: PowerMac3,5
Processor Name: Power PC G4
Processor Speed: 733 Mhz
Number of CPUs: 1
Memory 1.25 GB
I noticed it's an early Mac OS X Server, due to having an Iomega Zip drive and dedicated FPU which wasn't available in the later models or at least that's according to Mac Tracker which lists the model as code name "Titan"
Two ATA disks both at 127 GB each as that was the largest size it would take an airport wifi card. Picked it up with less an no wifi at a car boot sale for 20 bucks.. Very happy with my purchase! 😌
Model Identifier: PowerMac3,5
Processor Name: Power PC G4
Processor Speed: 733 Mhz
Number of CPUs: 1
Memory 1.25 GB
I noticed it's an early Mac OS X Server, due to having an Iomega Zip drive and dedicated FPU which wasn't available in the later models or at least that's according to Mac Tracker which lists the model as code name "Titan"
Two ATA disks both at 127 GB each as that was the largest size it would take an airport wifi card. Picked it up with less an no wifi at a car boot sale for 20 bucks.. Very happy with my purchase! 😌
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From what I was reading it also takes RAID but does anyone have any experience of using Raid drives with NAS an FireWire. I only ask as I was wondering is the raid device limited to using 127 GB increments?
Which would mean a lot of partitioning if the raid has two disks at 2 TB each.
Also the next thing that's got me thinking is the ECC Ram because different places list different maximums but it has three slots so in theory it should take a maximum of three gigabytes not 1.25 or 2.5
But I digress it's probably a case of suck it an see.
For anyone else that's thinking of buying one I would add that unless you're prepared to get low down an dirty with video playback by disabling high definition or upgrade your graphics card to 128mb from a humble 32mb nVidia you'll be left hanging when playing an MP4 or mkv in VLC as these graphics cards didn't include a dirty big fan or insane amounts of memory, which seems to be what everything else has these days.
An the CPU wasn't something that would bake fried eggs an chips!
Why they abandoned these machines an dropped the FPU which did metric calculations and had no TPM from 2006 is a subject people will debate for years to come. Yes it was when they transitioned to Intel machines instead of Freescale. Apples open source TPM vanished at around the same time. Later becoming the T2 secure enclave, but only much later on.
And at the same time sneaked in absolute softwares lo jack for laptops described as absolute back door by kaspersky labs at black hat Las Vegas.
Oh in case people want to use Windows 10 on there beloved Mac - humph listen mate there's an app for that it's called VirtualBox which is the ONLY place that any sane person would stick Windows.
When Satya Nadella came out with "this company is so hot" I couldn't help myself from thinking "yeah bro so is your CPU!" 😂
But as Open Source machines go, this was the Ferrari of the computer world in its day! 😀
Which would mean a lot of partitioning if the raid has two disks at 2 TB each.
Also the next thing that's got me thinking is the ECC Ram because different places list different maximums but it has three slots so in theory it should take a maximum of three gigabytes not 1.25 or 2.5
But I digress it's probably a case of suck it an see.
For anyone else that's thinking of buying one I would add that unless you're prepared to get low down an dirty with video playback by disabling high definition or upgrade your graphics card to 128mb from a humble 32mb nVidia you'll be left hanging when playing an MP4 or mkv in VLC as these graphics cards didn't include a dirty big fan or insane amounts of memory, which seems to be what everything else has these days.
An the CPU wasn't something that would bake fried eggs an chips!
Why they abandoned these machines an dropped the FPU which did metric calculations and had no TPM from 2006 is a subject people will debate for years to come. Yes it was when they transitioned to Intel machines instead of Freescale. Apples open source TPM vanished at around the same time. Later becoming the T2 secure enclave, but only much later on.
And at the same time sneaked in absolute softwares lo jack for laptops described as absolute back door by kaspersky labs at black hat Las Vegas.
Oh in case people want to use Windows 10 on there beloved Mac - humph listen mate there's an app for that it's called VirtualBox which is the ONLY place that any sane person would stick Windows.
When Satya Nadella came out with "this company is so hot" I couldn't help myself from thinking "yeah bro so is your CPU!" 😂
But as Open Source machines go, this was the Ferrari of the computer world in its day! 😀
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G4s max out at 2 GB or less no matter how many slots you have.
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You've got essentially two internal options:
1. Intech SpeedTools ATA Hi-Cap Driver - https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/speedtools-ata-hi-cap-driver
2. PCI-SATA card with SATA drives
#2 is preferable as it means you can use almost any SATA drive of any size without having to worry about the 128GB limit. I routinely used 1 and 2TB HDs on my Quicksilver (back when I was using that Mac).
@Amethyst1 Late Graphites (like the 733) and all Quicksilvers physically max out at 1.5 GB because they only have three slots, which is a limitation of PC133.
Thanks for the link to the high capacity driver. I don't have any NAS yet but saw the wording 500 MB transfer speeds and added it to my wish list.
I'll explore the RAM issue because I've found PC133 available as 1 GB sticks an so would just be interested in buying them for the paltry price you can get them for nowadays just to see if they work minus the original £59 price tag non-ECC or with ECC - opted for with.
When I first looked at it, it was only 512 MB in there an I just chuckled.
They said the same thing about Iomega zip when it first came out everybody thought 100 to 250 MB was all they could squeeze out of em till someone came along with a 750 MB an proved them wrong.
Dare I point out what the Linux Kernel Mac module for that airport wifi card calls itself? "Prism Atheros / Javlin Xbow Rev 1" lol that tells me it'll support kisMAC which is apparently now banned in Germany. Leaves you speculating there must be a lot of people using WEP encryption in Germany if they ban a tool for breaking its crap security. A wifi card that can put itself in monitor mode would hardly seem like a national secret - but there we have it..
Needless to say I wouldn't waste my time with a PowerPC port of Linux for a PowerPC because last time I checked everyone that had a quicksilver was no longer able to run Debian or Ubuntu because the guy maintaining the build had scrapped the 32 MB supported VGA an what with the inclusion of busybox an systemd it's a sock draw in there!
Blank screen central because of course every PPC shipped with the high end graphics now included in Ubuntu an Debian by default.
I'll explore the RAM issue because I've found PC133 available as 1 GB sticks an so would just be interested in buying them for the paltry price you can get them for nowadays just to see if they work minus the original £59 price tag non-ECC or with ECC - opted for with.
When I first looked at it, it was only 512 MB in there an I just chuckled.
They said the same thing about Iomega zip when it first came out everybody thought 100 to 250 MB was all they could squeeze out of em till someone came along with a 750 MB an proved them wrong.
Dare I point out what the Linux Kernel Mac module for that airport wifi card calls itself? "Prism Atheros / Javlin Xbow Rev 1" lol that tells me it'll support kisMAC which is apparently now banned in Germany. Leaves you speculating there must be a lot of people using WEP encryption in Germany if they ban a tool for breaking its crap security. A wifi card that can put itself in monitor mode would hardly seem like a national secret - but there we have it..
Needless to say I wouldn't waste my time with a PowerPC port of Linux for a PowerPC because last time I checked everyone that had a quicksilver was no longer able to run Debian or Ubuntu because the guy maintaining the build had scrapped the 32 MB supported VGA an what with the inclusion of busybox an systemd it's a sock draw in there!
Blank screen central because of course every PPC shipped with the high end graphics now included in Ubuntu an Debian by default.
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I'm still working that one out, how a PowerPC copy of Linux qualifies itself as being for the Power PC when it won't even boot to a login screen on a Power PC desktop, unless you break into a command line to discover the lack of VGA driver because it qualifies it as proprietary when in its day it was entirely open source...
It leaves you wanting to grab hold of the guy supposedly maintaining it for the PowerPC an shake him going "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE"
Without the nVidia VGA it exposes all the G3 G4 & G5 users to a hither too unknown new kind of hell.
Considering all PPC ports are only Radeon or nVidia by default, it begs the question where all the other graphic cards came from in the Linux port to PPC? I digress that is probably Mr Torvalds idea of being helpful by listing the graphics that you could have, instead of the graphics you've already got. Yes very helpful Linus thank you so much!
It leaves you wanting to grab hold of the guy supposedly maintaining it for the PowerPC an shake him going "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE"
Without the nVidia VGA it exposes all the G3 G4 & G5 users to a hither too unknown new kind of hell.
Considering all PPC ports are only Radeon or nVidia by default, it begs the question where all the other graphic cards came from in the Linux port to PPC? I digress that is probably Mr Torvalds idea of being helpful by listing the graphics that you could have, instead of the graphics you've already got. Yes very helpful Linus thank you so much!
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Booting to a desktop is not a universal qualifier for a "working" OS. Especially for Linux distros where the GUI is totally separate from the base OS. Linux itself is just a kernel.
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So is Morph OS the only proprietary part is the quark micro-kernel.
As for working, seeing as most people use a some kind of graphical interface even if it was something akin to Norton Commander that does kind of help the end user if there expecting a fluid interaction with there machine.
But when it just posts then goes into a dark screen, as a user you do kind of get instant frustration that your expected to pull the drivers with wget and figure out the issue with X11 that worked flawlessly on slackintosh!
And at the same time break into a shell for a login prompt!
Ctrl-Shift- & one of the F key's
Especially if you spent the last half hour setting up the disks with the encrypted LVM. An that is over an hour and maybe a few minutes of your time that you will not recover, leaving you to recollect that Leopard is still available to shove a FreeBSD derivative back on there, with no issues..
The bit that gets me is you read about the bugs in adobe flash for months on end if you read the security exposures, doesn't stop Apple including it in safari though does it?
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