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Powerpoint 2004 ripping off Keynote Animations

i_wolf said:
Hey guys,
Was just watching the new demo video for Office 2004

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/default.aspx?pid=office2004Demo

and on the second video (create)... when the demonstrator was illustrating 'new' transitions for Powerpoint 2004 they were just blatant carbon copies of Keynote spinning cube and flip. Check it out and tell me if you agree?
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I suspect they aren't copying Keynote intentionally, but rather using a built-in OpenGL effect which Keynote also uses. I could be wrong, but that's just my first guess. The MBU could have also gotten permission from Apple to use the same effects as a gesture toward Apple for creating them so stunningly.
 
Honestly, I don't think that Apple was the first company to ever conceive of a rotating/spinning cube effect. This isn't a ripoff as much as it's good competition, and Economics 101 says that good competition only benefits the consumer. Personally, I'd rather PowerPoint and Keynote continue to steal a few tricks from each other, rather than have either one of them just bow out of the field.
 
When was the last time Keynote got an upgrade? I think it's about time Apple gives it one. Maybe THAT'S what's holding up the new computers. They are all going to come with Keynote preinstalled, and they are still polishing off Keynote 2.0. ;) :rolleyes:
 
stoid said:
When was the last time Keynote got an upgrade? I think it's about time Apple gives it one. Maybe THAT'S what's holding up the new computers. They are all going to come with Keynote preinstalled, and they are still polishing off Keynote 2.0. ;) :rolleyes:
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that would make so many people very mad :D

reality
 
Was Powerpoint not the first presentation software ever? If thats true, the Apple would be the one copying Powerpoint with the "features" and "abilities" of Keynote. Either way, it doesn't really matter--people don't buy Keynote for the "spinning cube effect", haha at least I would hope not ;)

Keynote needs an update. I got it for free, but otherwise I wouldn't have spent my money on it. Its not a full featured as Powerpoint and its not as compatible. I believe it was just something Jobs had created for himself--and then later decided, "Hey, we could sell this!".

Realize this is just my personal opinion. I'm sure there are many users that find the value in Keynote, and like its abilities. For now, I'm going to stay with Powerpoint. Although, the centering gridlines are very nice.
 
joshuawaire said:
Was Powerpoint not the first presentation software ever? If thats true, the Apple would be the one copying Powerpoint with the "features" and "abilities" of Keynote. Either way, it doesn't really matter--people don't buy Keynote for the "spinning cube effect", haha at least I would hope not ;)
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Keynote is nicer, why else they use those effects. They were begging for them to be copied! I'm not so sure Powerpoint was the first, wasn't it bought? Or was that Just Visio?
 
i have to say... i fall in to the camp that i hope that keynote and powerpoint both 'copy' ideas from each other and improve upon them.... so that they force each other to innovate.
I was just surprised that it was such an obvious keynote effect. there just didn't seam to be any improvement on it or any difference. I think its good that they are offering these types of effects in powerpoint. To be honest, as much as i like Keynote, there are a lot of things I woud like them to improve upon.
1) Provide more highh quality 'clipart'
2) Make it easier to have different themes running within a presentation. The current way of doing this is messy. I would much rather that i click add to add a slide and then click an option button (apply theme to individual slide, or to entire presentation).
3) I also think it would be great if importing from omnigraffle was better. i.e. you can import straight '.graffle' into your presentation.
Regards
i_wolf
 
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