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edrose100

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This is my first iphone, and i choose the 3gs 16gb black. Let me just say that this thing is wicked fast, but i am disappointed in the app store not having free fun games, or games that can keep up with what the iphone can do, or even very useful apps. Although i am a little worried about the whole jail breaking of the iphone, so if you all would just humor a few questions for me that would be great.

1) If i jailbreak, do i have to change what the OS 3.0 looks like? I saw pictures of jailbroken iphones with all different themes, but in all honesty i like the way it looks. Also if i DL that program to change the theme, will i always be able to change it back to the original?

2) Do i lose capability to get into the regular apple app store?
3) Do i lose the apps i already have? Do they continue to work?
4) Can i set up the jailbreak so my iphone has no signs of it being jail broken except for a few extra app icons to the jail broken apps?
5) Does jail breaking the iphone breach my contract with At&t?
6) When you DL a app to turn your iphone into a modem allowing tethering, does at@t charge you? If i DL an app for this does it still go under the "unlimited" (aka 5gb) data plan, or does it immediately start charging ridiculous rates?
7) Does jackbreaking the iphone make it run slower?
8) Do i lost the newly added benefits of OS 3.0? Like landscaping the keyboard, copy/paste, etc etc... Or do i have to go through the annoying process of DLing 3rd party apps to do what os 3.0 came with?
9) Is jail breaking more like a whole new OS or more of a crack/addon?
10) In the jail breaking of the iphone, did apple put in any devices (like the psp has or had) that purposely self-destructs(for lack of a better word) if someone messes with the OS?
11) When jailbreaking an iphone, do i need to back up my music, contacts, and apps? And if so what program would be best? Does idump support iphone?
12) What is the difference between jail breaking with Pwnage Tool, Redsn0w, quickfreedom, and quickpwn? Are there any others? What is recommended as the best?
13) Are there any reasons not to jailbreak the iphone?

Any other tips that any of you would like to add in to all of this will be greatly appreciated

If it matters i am running Windows Xp.

I am very skilled in dealing with ipod/itunes, but am totally new to iphone so please forgive what might seem like a stupid question. I am no stranger to this sort of thing, but i do want to protect my new beloved purchase.

Thanks a lot for the help on this in advance. I no there is a lot of questions so i really appreciate the answers. Lets just hope i don't come up with more. :)
 
edrose100 said:
This is my first iphone, and i choose the 3gs 16gb black. Let me just say that this thing is wicked fast, but i am disappointed in the app store not having free fun games, or games that can keep up with what the iphone can do, or even very useful apps. Although i am a little worried about the whole jail breaking of the iphone, so if you all would just humor a few questions for me that would be great.

1) If i jailbreak, do i have to change what the OS 3.0 looks like? I saw pictures of jailbroken iphones with all different themes, but in all honesty i like the way it looks. Also if i DL that program to change the theme, will i always be able to change it back to the original?

2) Do i lose capability to get into the regular apple app store?
3) Do i lose the apps i already have? Do they continue to work?
4) Can i set up the jailbreak so my iphone has no signs of it being jail broken except for a few extra app icons to the jail broken apps?
5) Does jail breaking the iphone breach my contract with At&t?
6) When you DL a app to turn your iphone into a modem allowing tethering, does at@t charge you? If i DL an app for this does it still go under the "unlimited" (aka 5gb) data plan, or does it immediately start charging ridiculous rates?
7) Does jackbreaking the iphone make it run slower?
8) Do i lost the newly added benefits of OS 3.0? Like landscaping the keyboard, copy/paste, etc etc... Or do i have to go through the annoying process of DLing 3rd party apps to do what os 3.0 came with?
9) Is jail breaking more like a whole new OS or more of a crack/addon?
10) In the jail breaking of the iphone, did apple put in any devices (like the psp has or had) that purposely self-destructs(for lack of a better word) if someone messes with the OS?
11) When jailbreaking an iphone, do i need to back up my music, contacts, and apps? And if so what program would be best? Does idump support iphone?
12) What is the difference between jail breaking with Pwnage Tool, Redsn0w, quickfreedom, and quickpwn? Are there any others? What is recommended as the best?
13) Are there any reasons not to jailbreak the iphone?

Any other tips that any of you would like to add in to all of this will be greatly appreciated

If it matters i am running Windows Xp.

I am very skilled in dealing with ipod/itunes, but am totally new to iphone so please forgive what might seem like a stupid question. I am no stranger to this sort of thing, but i do want to protect my new beloved purchase.

Thanks a lot for the help on this in advance. I no there is a lot of questions so i really appreciate the answers. Lets just hope i don't come up with more. :)
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Damn, I didn't know Google went down today, I should go check on it. :) Also, you cannot jailbreak your 3GS, yet. Hopefully soon.

In the meantime, here are some answers:

1. No
2. No
3. No
4. Possibly, but if someone knew what to look for, they can tell.
5. No
6. That's not allowed by AT&T and you may "get caught"
7. Technically, yes. However if you do it right, you won't even notice.
8. No
9. Neither. It simply allows you to load unsigned applications.
10. No
11. Yes, iTunes.
12. Stick with "products" from the iPhone Dev Team. Namely redsn0w and Pwnage Tool. :)
13. Voids your warranty with Apple. However if you restore your iPhone, they won't be able to tell.
 
Not to totally pop your funbubble, but you can't even jailbreak a 3GS yet, since the dev-team has decided to keep the JB to themselves. :/
 
ya lol, psx with ff7, was pretty much convinced at that :):D
(when its all out)
 
3GS may not be jailbreakable yet, not sure. But here is some answers from my experience with the iphone 3g. Currently my phone is not jailbroke.

1) If i jailbreak, do i have to change what the OS 3.0 looks like? I saw pictures of jailbroken iphones with all different themes, but in all honesty i like the way it looks. Also if i DL that program to change the theme, will i always be able to change it back to the original?
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You do not have to change your theme, you change your theme using a app called Winterboard.

2) Do i lose capability to get into the regular apple app store?
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No, you can still access the normal app store.

3) Do i lose the apps i already have? Do they continue to work?
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It will erase all your download apps, but you can redownload these from the app store. The app store keeps track of the ones you already paid for.

4) Can i set up the jailbreak so my iphone has no signs of it being jail broken except for a few extra app icons to the jail broken apps?
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Yes, just don't put a winterboard theme on it.

5) Does jail breaking the iphone breach my contract with At&t?
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It may breach your contract, however if you do a phone restore on itunes it should be nearly impossible to tell it was jailbroken.

6) When you DL a app to turn your iphone into a modem allowing tethering, does at@t charge you? If i DL an app for this does it still go under the "unlimited" (aka 5gb) data plan, or does it immediately start charging ridiculous rates?
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It is covered by your unlimited data plan.

7) Does jackbreaking the iphone make it run slower?
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If you start running a lot of background apps and stuff it can run slower. Be aware of what the programs do that you download. Most apps are fine.

8) Do i lost the newly added benefits of OS 3.0? Like landscaping the keyboard, copy/paste, etc etc... Or do i have to go through the annoying process of DLing 3rd party apps to do what os 3.0 came with?
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If you use a 3.0 jailbreak you should not lose any of these features.

9) Is jail breaking more like a whole new OS or more of a crack/addon?
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It is more of an addon.

10) In the jail breaking of the iphone, did apple put in any devices (like the psp has or had) that purposely self-destructs(for lack of a better word) if someone messes with the OS?
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I've heard of people bricking their iphone, usually a restore from itunes is all that is needed to fix it.

11) When jailbreaking an iphone, do i need to back up my music, contacts, and apps? And if so what program would be best? Does idump support iphone?
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Yeah you should back everything up, I use Google Sync for my contanct and calander. You can use itunes to do this too.

12) What is the difference between jail breaking with Pwnage Tool, Redsn0w, quickfreedom, and quickpwn? Are there any others? What is recommended as the best?
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I used quickpwn, I am pretty sure most of them work fairly similar.

13) Are there any reasons not to jailbreak the iphone?
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Since upgrading to 3.0 I didn't jailbreak my phone because I didn't really use too many of the apps.

Personally I would only jailbreak my phone if there were specific apps I wanted. (Or to try it out just for fun)

You can always unjailbreak it by restoring it from itunes.
 
What is the deal with the ECID 16 digit number for the 3gs, and getting that certificate? I already did all this just to be safe, but the explanation on the dev team site made absolutely no sense to me. Also how do you no if your iphone is going to be compatible with the future jailbreak?

Also if u do instale winterboard, will you always be able to uninstall it and return to normal theme? I no i am gana be tempted to find some sephiroth ff7 theme which is gana look like crap lol :)


btw thanks alot for the responses!
 
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