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professional laser printer?

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zombiecakes

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Jul 11, 2012
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Anyone know of a good small business professional laser printer? Something to substitute getting things printed at the print shop. Needs to do at least full 8x11 sheets of 100lb with very good color rendition as its for graphic design stuff and not office print outs.
 
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I second Xerox, for this kind of printing...but beware, they are expensive to maintain. When I had to work with one several years back, toner was $300 per color, and there were several other replaceable parts that weren't cheap, either. High-end graphics printing will definitely cost you...probably why the print shops still do good business.
 
WMD said:
I second Xerox, for this kind of printing...but beware, they are expensive to maintain. When I had to work with one several years back, toner was $300 per color, and there were several other replaceable parts that weren't cheap, either. High-end graphics printing will definitely cost you...probably why the print shops still do good business.
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You do an excellent job of describing the state of affairs with laser printers. Based on the OP's description of his needs, he should can be satisfied by a duplexing departmental printer rather than a production printer. High-capacity toner drums for Xerox laser printers cost $300/color.

High-capacity color cartridges are rated for 12,000 pages; high-capacity black cartridges rated for 18,000 pages. At these rates, the cost is $0.025/page for color and $0.0167/page for black. These estimates, of course, no not include the amortized cost of the printer or of parts that are replaced during routine maintenance.

This is the little picture. Look at the big picture. A full complement of high capacity toner cartridges for a color laser printer costs $1200. This is within $50 of the price of a base Xerox Phaser 6700/N, a low-end production color printer. More than a decade ago, the price of inkjet printers dropped to a point where it was no longer economic to replace the ink cartridges that were bundled with the printer. Replace the printer, instead. Many users began to do just that. For them, inkjet printers became disposable "razors." Use them and then toss them.

We have now reached that point with laser and laser-like printers. Replacement toner cartridges cost as much as a new printer. Economics dictate that we buy a new laser printer instead of toner for the old printer.
 
MisterMe said:
This is the little picture. Look at the big picture. A full complement of high capacity toner cartridges for a color laser printer costs $1200. This is within $50 of the price of a base Xerox Phaser 6700/N, a low-end production color printer. More than a decade ago, the price of inkjet printers dropped to a point where it was no longer economic to replace the ink cartridges that were bundled with the printer. Replace the printer, instead. Many users began to do just that. For them, inkjet printers became disposable "razors." Use them and then toss them.

We have now reached that point with laser and laser-like printers. Replacement toner cartridges cost as much as a new printer. Economics dictate that we buy a new laser printer instead of toner for the old printer.
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Does the new printer come with full high capacity toner or some lower capacity?
 
what about the series of printers? the product descriptions on product sites are only aimed at mundane office administration and not graphics, theres no way to know which ones are good for printing professional marketing material and which ones are good for quickly printing some guys power point.
 
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admwright said:
Does the new printer come with full high capacity toner or some lower capacity?
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No, you get standard capacity at best. I surmise that manufacturers may now be going for half-capacity. I don't own Xerox laser printers, but I do own two Xerox ColorQube solid ink printers. I also own two Xerox Phaser printers which the ColorQubes replaced. My Phasers and my first ColorQube came bundled with a full-fill of wax ink. My newest ColorQube, however, was bundled with only one brick of each color ink.

Still, the basic economics still hold. What do the Laws of Economics dictate when the price of a new printer is about the same as the price of replacement toner cartridges? We tend to forget that the printers have warranties which cover repairs for the warranty period. After the warranty period, repairs are covered by a service contract if one has been purchased for the printer. I purchased and renewed a service contract for my second Phaser. I do not have and will not purchase service contracts on my ColorQubes. If either printer breaks, then I will replace it.
 
decksnap said:
The Xerox phaser 7760 is their best for graphics. You will pay for it though, certainly not disposable.


http://www.office.xerox.com/printers/color-printers/phaser-7760/enus.html

Edit- I take that back, it was when we bought ours. Whatever the replacement is for this then. :)
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You should look again. The Xerox Phaser 7500 LED color tabloid printer appears to be a fairly good replacement for your Phaser 7760. It is more expensive than letter/legal size printers, but so too are its toner cartridges. Its high-capacity color cartridges will set you back $515 each while the high-capacity black cartridge will hit your office supplies account for $350. Thus a full complement of replacement toner in high-capacity cartridges comes in at $1895. A replacement base-level Phaser 7500 printer will drive-up your expenses by $2400. I have a feeling that a comparable Phaser 7760 cost much more than $2400.
 
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