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Professional Recording Issue

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GuitarStar

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Jan 18, 2004
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Here's my answer to everyone that's whining about how GarageBand can't do this or that etc etc, if you want PROFESSIONAL high level recording software, theres only one way to go. I've never heard of "Logic" however me and my reocordin' buddies that have a made careers out of recording, all use Cubase. So if your going to whine that GarageBand can't do certain things, or you want the most professional software you can get, Cubase is the way to go. It seems somewhat complicated at first, but half the features you won't need to use before your ready fo sho!! Plus yeah it can export MIDI and crap no problem, best recording program ever, period. The only downside is its a crap load of money, like more than $500. Its like the photoshop of audio.

Check out some screenies:

http://www.arbitermt.co.uk/steinberg/products/cubasesl_screenshots.htm

I use the PC version of Cubase (yeah, yeah, sinner I know) but the mac-version should be pretty bootylicious too.

Rock-On

Peace
 
Re: Professional Recording Issue

Originally posted by GuitarStar
I use the PC version of Cubase (yeah, yeah, sinner I know) but the mac-version should be pretty bootylicious too.
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it's not... at least not the first release of SX and SL. never liked Cubase much anyways. Digital Performer and Logic are much better, but don't forget ProTools if you've got a large Studio and a lot 'o Plugs. though Live and Reason are my favorites.


peace.
 
Re: Professional Recording Issue

Originally posted by GuitarStar
...however me and my reocordin' buddies that have a made careers out of recording, all use Cubase...
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Funny, I thought most North-American recording engineers refuse to touch anything than ProTools ;-).

It's not that Apple just bought some barely-known German software company and decided to market their cheesy little software. Logic has been around for many years and is a complete music production solution. Whether you choose Logic or Cubase is IMHO mostly a matter of taste and what your friends use :).
 
Yepp

If used Cubase SX and SL, SX is a lot better, never used for Mac though, im more of a PC recording person. I'm about to switch real quick cause windows crashes about 30,000 times a day!!

Windows ruins un-saved song projects faster than bat do your hard drive ever could =OP I'll have to check out this Live, Reason stuff and pro tools stuff, but from my experience, Cubase has given me the least amount of hassle hands down! Some Mac magazine should do a huge review of all this stuff if they havn't already =0)

Oh yeah I forgot to add, I was using an updated version of Cubase, went back to my friends older version and it hardly seemed like the same program, the new version is so much better!
 
thank god! Enough of this "why won't GB let me have a proaudio studio" crap. People - read the description, it's an entry level SEQUENCING program.

logic and protools are good for most needs. Cubase is not as professional as you might think - experiment around.
 
MIDI DATA FROM A MIDI KEYBOARD INTO GB

CANT I SYNC AN ENSONIQ'S SEQUENCER THAT HAS TONS OF SEQUENCED DATA
WITH THE SEQUENCER OF GB SO THAT THE DATA IS MIDI'D OUT TO RECORD INSIDE THE GB SEQUENCER?

THIS WAY I COULD ASSIGN DIFFERENT SOFTWARE INSTRUMENTS TO THE MIDI DATA AND HAVE IT ALL IN GB

SIMPLY PUT IF I RUN MIDI OUT FROM THE ENSONIQ TO MIDI IN OF GB
WONT THE DATA RECORD INTO GB
AS IF I WAS PLAYING IT ON THE KEYBOARD LIVE?

THIS WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO KNOW

THANKS

GLENN
 
Originally posted by carletonmusic
thank god! Enough of this "why won't GB let me have a proaudio studio" crap. People - read the description, it's an entry level SEQUENCING program.
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Without the ability to import/export midi sequences, it doesn't even qualify for "entry level"... it's a toy at best.
 
Re: MIDI DATA FROM A MIDI KEYBOARD INTO GB

Originally posted by losackmd
CANT I SYNC AN ENSONIQ'S SEQUENCER THAT HAS TONS OF SEQUENCED DATA
WITH THE SEQUENCER OF GB SO THAT THE DATA IS MIDI'D OUT TO RECORD INSIDE THE GB SEQUENCER?
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Why are you shouting at me, Glenn?
 
CUBASE THE PHOTOSHOP OF AUDIO ??!!?

thats the funniest thing i have ever heard. ever hear of ProTools? all professional composers i know (guys who score films, television shows and commercials) use Logic. All recording studios i have worked in use ProTools.

I have to agree with a previous post, "CuBase is not as proessional as you think".

LOOK ALIVE!
 
re midi

lets try this again

it would help if someone knew something about this issue
or direct the reply to some other thread / area of discussion
and stop changing the subject.

These GB forums will cease to be of interest unless solid important
questions are being answered.

if all we are doing here is sending midi data to a GB midi track
from a midi keyboard then why wouldnt a synthesizer with its built
in sequencer ( korg, roland, ensoniq etc)
be able thru midi out to send the data into GB?

if you cannot lock the sequencers, i assume you would have to manually
press start on the synthesizer( external midi keyboard) and have the data
midi 'd into GB. Does anyone have any experience with this.
Many of us long time users of midi have tons of material on our synthesizer
sequencers that we would like to put into GB and add to it from within
GB.

If version 2.0 would include this i think it would be a plus.
if not
I wouldnt see much of a benefit for it,

It has to amplify its midi capabilities to work with other sequencers and midi files.

gl
 
personally i think Cubase is kind of crap. i use Logic instead. Cubase has become sort of bloated and the UI has gone to hell. it also places processor priority on screen redraws, so if you're pushing it too hard the audio breaks up, but the UI remains useful. stupid. it's the only audio app that does this. this is all matter of opinion. lots of people use all the big sequencers.
 
Re: re midi

Originally posted by losackmd
lets try this again

it would help if someone knew something about this issue
or direct the reply to some other thread / area of discussion
and stop changing the subject.

These GB forums will cease to be of interest unless solid important
questions are being answered.

if all we are doing here is sending midi data to a GB midi track
from a midi keyboard then why wouldnt a synthesizer with its built
in sequencer ( korg, roland, ensoniq etc)
be able thru midi out to send the data into GB?

if you cannot lock the sequencers, i assume you would have to manually
press start on the synthesizer( external midi keyboard) and have the data
midi 'd into GB. Does anyone have any experience with this.
Many of us long time users of midi have tons of material on our synthesizer
sequencers that we would like to put into GB and add to it from within
GB.

If version 2.0 would include this i think it would be a plus.
if not
I wouldnt see much of a benefit for it,

It has to amplify its midi capabilities to work with other sequencers and midi files.

gl
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please stop posting this on every thread. obviously no one cares what you have to say.
 
Originally posted by tjwett
personally i think Cubase is kind of crap. i use Logic instead. Cubase has become sort of bloated and the UI has gone to hell. it also places processor priority on screen redraws, so if you're pushing it too hard the audio breaks up, but the UI remains useful. stupid. it's the only audio app that does this. this is all matter of opinion. lots of people use all the big sequencers.
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Yepp, logic is the way forward, have you seen the new UltraBeat thing that is comin gwith logic pro? Man I wish I could afford that beast.
 
Cubase is a good way to start recording and sequencing, and it is eminantly piratable, as Stienberg don't seem to put the energy inot copy protection thar Emagic and Digidesign do, but once you get exposed to Logic (or ProTools for audio recording) Cubase falls flat.

Stienberg as much admitted it by stacking Nuendo against it.

The pro-industry in the UK is very Logic/PTools led, in the US, don't forget DP4...
 
Originally posted by WinterMute
Cubase is a good way to start recording and sequencing, and it is eminantly piratable, as Stienberg don't seem to put the energy inot copy protection thar Emagic and Digidesign do... <snip>... Stienberg as much admitted it by stacking Nuendo against it.

The pro-industry in the UK is very Logic/PTools led, in the US, don't forget DP4...
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Cubase SX and SL are not so easy to crack though back in OS9 it was too easy to crack, but barely useable anyways (bad interface). They now require dongles...

I hear Nuendu is the **** for multimedia audio. I would love to try Logic, and I have seen DP4 in action and it looks pretty sweet too. Never really needed ProTools though... not enough equipment, plug-ins, and cash to justify using it.


peace.
 
Nope

Cubase is still very easy to crack, for having a dongle I was pretty suprised all you have to do is replace one DLL file (in Windows), I tried it on my copy cause I needed the USB spot.
 
Originally posted by neut
Cubase SX and SL are not so easy to crack though back in OS9 it was too easy to crack, but barely useable anyways (bad interface). They now require dongles...

I hear Nuendu is the **** for multimedia audio. I would love to try Logic, and I have seen DP4 in action and it looks pretty sweet too. Never really needed ProTools though... not enough equipment, plug-ins, and cash to justify using it.


peace.
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Nuendo isn't as good as it thinks it is, it's workflow is poor, and it maks stuff more difficult to do sometimes, plus the interface sucks...

I've got Logic and ProTools, plus Reason, Spark etc, and a bunch of plugs, but the real kicker is that I use ProTools HD3 axess at work, and it is the bomb, especially when you run it with a Logic front end.

I don't do a lot of MIDI, so ProTools suits my needs, except that you can't mix surround out of the LE version.
 
Re: Nope

Originally posted by GuitarStar
Cubase is still very easy to crack, for having a dongle I was pretty suprised all you have to do is replace one DLL file (in Windows), I tried it on my copy cause I needed the USB spot.
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i don't think you can do that with the OSX version...

So what kind of mac have you run Cubase on? it preformed well i presume?


Originally posted by WinterMute
Nuendo isn't as good as it thinks it is, it's workflow is poor, and it maks stuff more difficult to do sometimes, plus the interface sucks...
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good to know.

//i don't know anyone who is currently running it.


Originally posted by WinterMute
I've got Logic and ProTools, plus Reason, Spark etc, and a bunch of plugs, but the real kicker is that I use ProTools HD3 axess at work, and it is the bomb, especially when you run it with a Logic front end.
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nice.

//i found i nice minimal set-up with Reason and Live. i can't afford the ProTools hardware.
 
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