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snerkler

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I’ve just got the 14 pro and been trying out ProRaw, and so far I’m a bit disappointed. I use lightroom on my desktop to edit photos and the initial ProRaw has far too much processing for my taste (especially HDR), however if I move the slider to reduce the ProRaw effect the photos are then massively underexposed and I’m having to boost it by 1-2 stops. If I change the profile from ProRaw to Adobe Standard (which I assume gives me more of a real raw image as it has no processing) then I only have to boost exposure by 0.1 or 0.2.

Is this what you’d expect, and if so why does turning down the effect of ProRaw make the photos so underexposed? My initial thought was because it’s HDR and by decreasing the ProRaw effect you’re losing the higher exposed images, but then why does it appear much better when using the Adobe profile?

Any help appreciated.
 

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I’ve just got the 14 pro and been trying out ProRaw, and so far I’m a bit disappointed. I use lightroom on my desktop to edit photos and the initial ProRaw has far too much processing for my taste (especially HDR), however if I move the slider to reduce the ProRaw effect the photos are then massively underexposed and I’m having to boost it by 1-2 stops. If I change the profile from ProRaw to Adobe Standard (which I assume gives me more of a real raw image as it has no processing) then I only have to boost exposure by 0.1 or 0.2.

Is this what you’d expect, and if so why does turning down the effect of ProRaw make the photos so underexposed? My initial thought was because it’s HDR and by decreasing the ProRaw effect you’re losing the higher exposed images, but then why does it appear much better when using the Adobe profile?

Any help appreciated.

No expert and I’m not much of a Lr user (I use Darkroom mostly) so may not help much but just on turning down ProRAW, you are discarding the computational data, which brings out better balanced photos, with Smart HDR etc, so that makes kind of sense to me, you have to make further edits to get the balance back if reducing/disable the local tone map, Darkroom explains what’s happening, I assume Lightroom works similarly:

“The Tone Map slider allows you to control the strength of this effect. By default, we leave it at 100% so your ProRAW images in Darkroom match your preview in the Photos app. You can disable all local tone mapping by moving the slider down all the way to 0%, increasing contrast, and making your photos look more natural, although depending on the shooting conditions, your photo may be very dark.”
 
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snerkler

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No expert and I’m not much of a Lr user (I use Darkroom mostly) so may not help much but just on turning down ProRAW, you are discarding the computational data, which brings out better balanced photos, with Smart HDR etc, so that makes kind of sense to me, you have to make further edits to get the balance back if reducing/disable the local tone map, Darkroom explains what’s happening, I assume Lightroom works similarly:

“The Tone Map slider allows you to control the strength of this effect. By default, we leave it at 100% so your ProRAW images in Darkroom match your preview in the Photos app. You can disable all local tone mapping by moving the slider down all the way to 0%, increasing contrast, and making your photos look more natural, although depending on the shooting conditions, your photo may be very dark.”
Thanks for your reply. I understand that you’re reducing tone mapping but what I don’t understand is why the the ‘unmapped’ shot is so underexposed. In an ideal world the ‘unmapped’ shot should be the medium exposure and then the additional ones being the under and over exposed ones therefore when you ‘turn off’ the mapping you at least have a properly exposed shot.
 
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