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richdom81

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Jun 14, 2007
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I just want to create a Pros and Cons list for this device. I don't consider myself an expert on Smartphone, but I have owned a couple Smartphone’s, so I do have some knowledge regarding these devices. I will list several pros and cons with a critique for each.

Let’s start with the Pros:

1) "Reinventing the Phone". So Apple has a glorified way of making phone calls. Is it really the "killer app" he claims what plagues all mobile phones (Smartphone’s in particular) today? Well, my Cingular 8525 does not look spiffy when placing a call, but it does get the job done. I'm not sure how iPhone’s new way of housing contacts and such is any different from any current contacting software in today's mobile phones.

2) The "Multi-touch" technology. Again, I have not done super extensive research on all phones and such, but I have not seen a mobile phone (any mobile device rather) with this type of precision control. This is one of the revolutionary features Apple hopes will place the phone on the map. Will it really?

3) "Real web Browser via Safari". Now all the mobile web browsing experience I have had with my Smartphone have always ended up as a , "well it kind of looks like a web page". I can only hope that the page I am visiting has a "mobile" or "go" version so that I can view it properly. Networking connectivity speeds aside, it sounds like a promising upgrade. While capped at only EDGE speeds, will it really deliver however? I know MS is working on a way of doing the same thing, but viewing the web pages as bit maps. Maybe Windows Mobile has something up there sleeve coming the next Windows Mobile 6, or soon after.

4) "It's a touchable widescreen iPod video". I don't know about you, but I'm sure if Apple only made this an iPod and dropped the price to around $300 - $400, people would buy it left and right. How much was the original iPod video, around $250-$300? But then again, this device can only house up to 8gig storage. Perhaps if they were going to just make it into an iPod, they would probably just add a hard disk. So why don’t they now? I think it has to do with power consumption, and that Apple wants this thing to last as long as reasonably possible. After all, it is a phone with a cool iPod built into it. My only question is, what is the primary usage of this device? A phone, or an iPod? Are you going to buy it because it is a phone that also happens to be a iPod, or a touchable iPod that can also make phone calls?

And now the Cons:

1) Versatility. The iPhone is not versatile. That has always been the case with all of Apple’s products. The ability to change the product in a whim to meet the customers’ needs. However, what good is the ability to change into something you want, that can’t deliver a reasonable functional product. That seems to have been Microsoft’s plague. Since I got my Cingular 8525, I have had a lot system crashes (ahem, a mobile phone having system crashes…), freezes and just some weird stuff. Granted, this is not a day by day thing, however it leads to one curious conclusion as to how stable is this thing? Do I really want to keep adding to this thing more and more gadgets, apps, whatever to a flakey system? I understand that Cingular 8525 is really Pocket PC with a WinMO 5 stamped on it, but doesn’t that sound just sound lazy? I don’t know, maybe I just want a system that was built from the ground up and can do what it is supposed to do well. Is that too much to ask for?

2) WiFi + EDGE Networking. Ok, so this version of the iPhone will not have 3G. Ok, what difference will “I” (as the customer) see? That is really hard to tell without an actual model to play with. So the phone will not have the fancy 3G fireball thing right next to it. I just care about what I will actually “see”. My older smartphone(not my current 8525) was only a GPRS phone, not even EDGE, and I thought it was adequate at looking at whatever mobile web pages I could find. I pretty much just used my data connection phone for e-mail and looking at CNET (oh, and the occasional movie time look up). I suppose that if you are the heavy mobile phone streaming type, that would really suck.

According to WikiPedia:

“EDGE can carry data speeds up to 236.8 kbit/s for 4 timeslots (theoretical maximum is 473.6 kbit/s for 8 timeslots) in packet mode and will therefore meet the International Telecommunications Union's requirement for a 3G network, and has been accepted by the ITU as part of the IMT-2000 family of 3G standards. It also enhances the circuit data mode called HSCSD, increasing the data rate of this service.”

The iPhone cannot be called a 3G mobile device because EDGE is not classified as a 3G technology, that is why they call it 2.5G or even 2.75 G, but does that mean we won’t see speeds that can somewhat approach 3G speeds? It is known that Apple is working very closely to AT&T, so perhaps they can find a way to bend the rules as it were. An unconventional phone using a conventional technology unconventionally? Who knows.

3) Qwerty touch screen keyboard. I was not sure whether to place this on the pro or con. Apple says it is a huge Pro, while “others” (including Engadget) say that it is Con. For consistency, I’ll place it on the Con. So I kind of imagined myself typing in a screen with the same dimensions as the iPhone to sort of determine if I like it better or not. One point that Steve says is the fact that the keyboard is not present, as is the case as all other keyboard phones (virtually all phones really). With most PDA/smartphones out there, almost half the device is the keyboard. Prime examples would be the Moto Q and Blackjack. My Cingular 8525, however, has a hidden keyboard that does not really impede on the screen. However I have to constantly open it when I want to type in something, and that has been a hassle. Not to mention sometimes it would crash the PDA if I do it too often (why?).

A reason why consumers may not like the QWERTY keyboard is because there will be no tactile feedback. Personally, I’m not too sure about this one. I kind of like not have a feedback while typing, it makes typing feel more free. There is no way to really know until it is played when the iPhone is released.

Conclusion
There are many more features, or lack thereof to write about, however I have to attend to my RL duties. The base question is “is this a good purchase?” and “Who is the consumer base for this product?”. At $600, it better deliver what was promised. I believe the iPod of the iPhone will deliver, and I have no doubt that it will be spectacular. I would gauge the iPod of this phone to be around $350, so now there is the other $250. It is a very pretty, and user-friendly phone. With phones like the Motorola RAZR selling for around $500 ($300 with contract)during its initial release, it is easy to say that the iPhone may be worth buying. With the iPhone, you get this very slick phone (perhaps not as slick as the RAZR, but close :) ), and with many of the bells & whistles as all the other hip modern phones.

Anyways, that is just my take on it. After doing some research, I think I will get this thing. It has everything that I like about a phone. It may not have the thousands of other capabilities that smartphones have, but who really uses all of it?
 
It may have its pros and it may have its cons but every phone I've had, I have hated. Just like any MP3 Player I have had I've hated until the iPod. Every computer I have had I have hated until the Mac, are you seeing the trend?
 
The cons really aren't cons in my book. Some of what others consider iPhone's shortcomings in comparison to other "Smart"phones are not really problems for the average consumer. I am a remote telecom IT guy who lives by mobile techology and I am really looking forward to replacing my bb pearl with iPhone. I have a lot of confidence in this as it has been in the works for several years, under constant scrutiny, to surpass all other devices in terms of functionality, reliability, and security. Granted it is a rev A device that is never perfect, but I think it will be close.

The things that seem to get the most complaints...no push email, so memory expansion, not enough memory, no SDK, etc. will be corrected in the future, but you have to look at this from Apple's view. They are already at the top of the price tier for smartphones and are testing new technologies and OS platforms for phones. There is a need to take it somewhat slow and see how the market reacts and how the phone stands up to its initial release. Six months of success and you'll see the changes come. Software updates will be first and then you'll see the 2nd and 3rd gen units will the hardware upgrades.

Keep in mind that the most popular consumer phones in the market are phone/mp3 units. In my opinion, Apple is just raising the bar. Blackberry and MS Direct Push have been integrated too deep into corporate infastructure for Apple to compete with on the first generation product.
 
Rich,

I have a 8525 also, and I love it. I paid $600 for it and now it's $99 refurbished -- ouch.

That said, I'll pay big $$ for cool gadgets, but I will hold on to my 8525 for a long while if I can use both because I want the iPhone, but the 8525 kicks tail. On it I can:

Watch my DVR/DVD player on the go via SlingBox

Surf the web on my phone while talking

Receive data (emails and text messages) while on the phone, although it often drops the call when these come in.

Get Flash 7 (but it doesn't seem to work yet)

Use MSN Live Maps (better than Google's IMO)

I could continue but I might get blasted in this forum. So back to the iPhone...

I look forward to syncing the iPhone with my Mac with EASE. Missing Sync does NOT organize my contacts properly, and that's a PAIN x 400 (contacts).

I expect the iPhone to fail my expectations next to the 8525, and I expect to get too much attention and possibly have to worry about my security (no joke - NYC, short, single). But I have to have it. If it's sold out though, I won't care...until those lucky Phone owners start bragging ;)
 
I wrote this initally to see on paper my likes and dislikes. Unfortunately, I cannot have two phone lines, I'll have to sell my 8525 and iPod to justify perchasing this iPhone. iPod wise, it bad @$$. My only question, is the phone aspect. I'm not much of a heavy mobile phone internet user, so the capped net speed is of no concern to me, but I do like the idea of having my yahoo mail being pushed onto the phone.

I just hope that the iPhone works as Steve promised. If it truely can do what he did on the keynote, than I think I am sold.
 
The only con that I can possibly think of is the hit to the pocket book. As far as all the other "short comings" that people see in the iPhone, you can make a list even longer with the short comings of every other smart phone on the market. It seems to me that people just single out the iPhone because it is Apple's first cell phone to the market.
 
A con for me is not having cameras on both sides. I want Video chat/conferencing. I'll live. :)
 
No offense, but you don't really seem qualified to write a pro/con post on the subject.

I don't know enough on either end to make that kind of comparison with any kind of detail, yet I know at least as much as you. Again no offense, I would have just hoped for a bit more insight and detail for someone making a pro/con list.
 
A con for me is not having cameras on both sides. I want Video chat/conferencing. I'll live. :)

Not gonna happen. A few years ago When 3G was launched here in Europe all 3G phones had a front facing camera because the manufacturers thought that videocalling was going to be the next big thing. Needless to say it was a huge disaster, nobody used it and now there are no longer any 3G phones with front facing camera. Pretty much same story with MMS here as well, manufacturers thought it was going to be as big as SMS on camera phones and once again nobody uses it.
 
No offense, but you don't really seem qualified to write a pro/con post on the subject.

I don't know enough on either end to make that kind of comparison with any kind of detail, yet I know at least as much as you. Again no offense, I would have just hoped for a bit more insight and detail for someone making a pro/con list.

I initially just wrote this for myself, I didn't mean this post to be some large editorial. I just thought I'd share this and see what feedback I can get. I don't know why people always assume the extreme. :(
 
Watch my DVR/DVD player on the go via SlingBox

I'll agree with this one.

I like that Apple has made Leopard and .Mac work together so that I can access my computer from the web. If Apple can do that, I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to push content to my phone from my computer as well.

I'm sure someone will write something that does this eventually. Hopefully, it'll be Apple, and sooner rather than later.
 
I will buy the Widescreen iPod with the new features but I am passing on the iPhone, they have crippled it way too much by not allowing 3rd party development. If they want it to replace my PDA/Smartphone, it needs to be at least as capable, not just prettier.
 
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