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JimKirk

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Currently Iphone shuts off wifi when it goes into sleep mode and I suspect the Ipad will do the same.

Which means that push on the Ipad is going to suck?

Anyone have any experience how the ipod touch does this?
 
iPod touch is the same way. When it goes to standby, the wifi turns off to conserve power. Once out of standy, it reconnects to wifi and then push begins. Only way I know of to enable full time push on the iPad is to get the 3G version and 3g service.
 
Currently Iphone shuts off wifi when it goes into sleep mode and I suspect the Ipad will do the same.

Which means that push on the Ipad is going to suck?

Anyone have any experience how the ipod touch does this?

An active iPhone account should always receive Push Notifications because even though the WiFi shuts off to preserve the battery, you still have a cellular connection (3G or EDGE) that allows the Notifications to get through.

as far as the iPad goes, no one will know until its released wether the WiFi signal will shut off or remain on, but seeing as Steve Jobs promised over a Month of Stand By time, I'm going to guess that the WiFi signal won't stay on.
 
iPod touch is the same way. When it goes to standby, the wifi turns off to conserve power. Once out of standy, it reconnects to wifi and then push begins. Only way I know of to enable full time push on the iPad is to get the 3G version and 3g service.

Are you sure? My 3G iphone gets push mail, regardless of if I have a 3G sim from a network that enables push or not...even in standby. There is a chance that I might not have noticed it...but...well..strange...

So how does this work, push comes from over 3g and then when it goes out of standby it uses the wifi to get the actual mail item?
 
The iPad should be able to retrieve emails every 15 minutes if you set it to do so, so I don't see why they couldn't check for push notifications at the same time.
 
An active iPhone account should always receive Push Notifications because even though the WiFi shuts off to preserve the battery, you still have a cellular connection (3G or EDGE) that allows the Notifications to get through.

as far as the iPad goes, no one will know until its released wether the WiFi signal will shut off or remain on, but seeing as Steve Jobs promised over a Month of Stand By time, I'm going to guess that the WiFi signal won't stay on.

Am I missing something??? Please someone tell me "Yes"... My Blackberry would give and alert me to my new email all day. My iPhone only gives me a number of email messages above the Mail icon. When you all refer to "Push", should/can my iPhone be giving me my email in the same way as the Blackberry did? Can my iPhone have my email pop up on the home screen as text messages do?

And sorry if the answer is obvious to a hard core Apple person. I'm a recent convert. Thanks.
 
Apple could simply include an option to keep Wi-Fi on, especially for Wi-Fi only iPad models. I believe they have this option for the official Apple remote app on the iPhone/iPod Touch, but am unsure as to why they don't allow it as a universal setting.
 
Funny... most posts sound like "i wish the iPad was really a big iPhone"

You REALLY need push notifications on while its asleep? No, not really. Push on the iPhone is such a battery drain.
 
Am I missing something??? Please someone tell me "Yes"... My Blackberry would give and alert me to my new email all day. My iPhone only gives me a number of email messages above the Mail icon. When you all refer to "Push", should/can my iPhone be giving me my email in the same way as the Blackberry did? Can my iPhone have my email pop up on the home screen as text messages do?

And sorry if the answer is obvious to a hard core Apple person. I'm a recent convert. Thanks.

Push can mean different things, and the notifications you receive are different depending on what type of "push" you get:
  1. Email - Some email servers support push, which means as soon as the email is received on your email server, it will push it to your iphone. As far as I know, the only way you are notified of new emails is by the number above the icon. I don't know of anyway to have it alert you on your lock screen that you have new emails (without jailbreaking, anyway). This isn't a technical limitation, merely how it was designed (if Apple decided to make a better lock screen, then it could work the same as your blackberry).
  2. Push notifications - These are notifications that are sent to apps installed on your iphone. Generally they appear as an alert box (same as text messages), although that is dependent on the application.
 
if you can have it check every 15 minutes say it's virtually the same as push.

no. it's not the same or even virtually. That's a poor man's workaround at best.

Try telling a reporter that getting their news tips every 15 minutes instead of instantly is virtually the same.

But I have to smile at those that insist on trying to come up with workaround for potential failings of the device they want to love so much it would hurt too much to admit it's not perfect.

I hope the iPad has accounted for push and wifi/sleep.
 
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