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zntxrr

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Hey,

any advice on how to get my iMac early 2008 in good shape? I have 4gb ram, and a 250 gb SSD installed. I am about install Mojave with a patcher. Have anyone had success with this?

Cheers!
 

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Hey,

any advice on how to get my iMac early 2008 in good shape? I have 4gb ram, and a 250 gb SSD installed. I am about install Mojave with a patcher. Have anyone had success with this?

Cheers!
I've installed High Sierra with tolerable success on my 20" iMac Early 2008, with the help of High Sierra Patcher. Never tried Mojave, but there's a patcher for that machine too, maybe the same that you have?


I've found that El Capitan works best, all in all, not surprisingly. I use the chromium-legacy browser.

 
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I've installed High Sierra with tolerable success on my 20" iMac Early 2008, with the help of High Sierra Patcher. Never tried Mojave, but there's a patcher for that machine too, maybe the same that you have?


I've found that El Capitan works best, all in all, not surprisingly. I use the chromium-legacy browser.

You can actually go up to Ventura if you use OCLP instead of dosdude1's patchers. Mojave in my opinion is faster than High Sierra, and as a plus has dark mode!

Both Big Sur and Monterey ran alright on my A1342 with 4GB of RAM. Though if you are wanting speed above all, that's when you drag out a copy of Snow Leopard ;)

With any these OS's, you can run the latest browsers natively (Firefox, Chrome...).
 

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You can actually go up to Ventura if you use OCLP instead of dosdude1's patchers. Mojave in my opinion is faster than High Sierra, and as a plus has dark mode!

Both Big Sur and Monterey ran alright on my A1342 with 4GB of RAM. Though if you are wanting speed above all, that's when you drag out a copy of Snow Leopard ;)

With any these OS's, you can run the latest browsers natively (Firefox, Chrome...).
I've tried OCLP with my old iMac and I've never succeeded with it. Something is amiss. I'm using OCLP and Monterey with my mini Late 2012, it works fine. Ventura isn't supported graphically enough for my taste.
 
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zntxrr

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You can actually go up to Ventura if you use OCLP instead of dosdude1's patchers. Mojave in my opinion is faster than High Sierra, and as a plus has dark mode!

Both Big Sur and Monterey ran alright on my A1342 with 4GB of RAM. Though if you are wanting speed above all, that's when you drag out a copy of Snow Leopard ;)

With any these OS's, you can run the latest browsers natively (Firefox, Chrome...).
Yes I have read that Mojave is faster than High Sierra, that seems promising. Interesting option with Snow Leopard however speed is alright in El Capitan, the main issue is the browser certificate.

Never tried Mojave, but there's a patcher for that machine too, maybe the same that you have?
Yes I have been looking at the dosdude1 patcher. Didn't know about the OCLP.
I've found that El Capitan works best, all in all, not surprisingly. I use the chromium-legacy browser.
This is a tempting solution however as I understand you can not sync chromium with chrome any longer? It would be a pain to not be able to sync passwords.

Patch to Mojave or El Capitan+Chromium seems like the two best routes imo.
 

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This is a tempting solution however as I understand you can not sync chromium with chrome any longer? It would be a pain to not be able to sync passwords.

Patch to Mojave or El Capitan+Chromium seems like the two best routes imo.
Chromium-legacy syncs perfectly, just like Chrome. If it's going to last, I don't know. There has been talk about shutting this down from anything not Chrome for a long time now, it has yet to appear. Just like Manifest V3...
 
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Personally, since you only have 4gb of ram, i'd stick Snow Leopard on it. You still get decent Intel app support, Macports support, and the ability to run most any PowerPC app. The available web browsers for 10.6 are decent and will get you "most" of the modern web, and if that isn't enough, installing Surf and/or Epiphany browsers through Macports will give you 2 current webkit based browsers for most of the other "chrome only" sites. Anything above 10.11 really needs 8gb of ram or more to run decently without grinding to halt when using current chrome/chromium/firefox.
 
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Yes I have read that Mojave is faster than High Sierra, that seems promising. Interesting option with Snow Leopard however speed is alright in El Capitan, the main issue is the browser certificate.


Yes I have been looking at the dosdude1 patcher. Didn't know about the OCLP.

This is a tempting solution however as I understand you can not sync chromium with chrome any longer? It would be a pain to not be able to sync passwords.

Patch to Mojave or El Capitan+Chromium seems like the two best routes imo.
Try this fix for the older OS browser certificates: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/9-30-21-expired-ssl-certs-fix.2326609/

Using that plus the Interweb browser on any of the available OSes for a 2008 iMac will help give it new life. The SSD will help greatly too!
 
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zntxrr

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Chromium-legacy syncs perfectly, just like Chrome. If it's going to last, I don't know. There has been talk about shutting this down from anything not Chrome for a long time now, it has yet to appear. Just like Manifest V3...
I downloaded the stable build


the osx verification of the app took so long I had to leave it on over the night (!). Anyway, writing this logged in on google on Chromium. All good to go, thanks!! I will save Snow Leopard for later if I run into trouble.

I have put in and SSD in this machine. 4 GB RAM is max according to Apple, but I think there is a way to install 6 GB. Id like to do that.

Try this fix for the older OS browser certificates: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/9-30-21-expired-ssl-certs-fix.2326609/

Using that plus the Interweb browser on any of the available OSes for a 2008 iMac will help give it new life. The SSD will help greatly too!
Will try to fix the certificates, amazing if it works. Downloading Interweb too.
 
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4 GB RAM is max according to Apple, but I think there is a way to install 6 GB. Id like to do that.
I have 4 GB also. I searched for a 4 GB RAM module, but they seem to be as rare as hen's teeth. Best of luck! 🤞🏻
 

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the osx verification of the app took so long I had to leave it on over the night (!).
Yes, that happened to me also, when I tested a developer version (on behalf of the developer). Didn't think of mentioning that, sorry, but you sorted it out anyway. This behaviour hasn't been the case before, perhaps the developer will fix it.
 

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... any advice on how to get my iMac early 2008 in good shape? I have 4gb ram, and a 250 gb SSD installed. I am about install Mojave with a patcher. Have anyone had success with this?
The early 2008 iMacs are comparable to my early2008 17" MBP:
- minimum 2,4GHz
- max. 6GB RAM (but the 4GB DDR2 are quite expensive)
- Running patched_Mojave should be fine as on my MBP.
- Patched_Catalina struggles on start because of indexing the fotos-library in addition to the spotlight indexing. You can expect more CPU-load and fan-activity during the first hours after installation unless you switch of indexing at all
- I wouldn't spend effort in trying OCLP BigSur/Monterey. Compared to Patched_Mojave on the late2008 2,9GHz MBP with 8GB DDR3-RAM the OCLP_Monterey even if working does perform much worse. (Probably even 6GB RAM won't be enough anyway)
DualBoot Mojave/SnowLeopard is a great option, as others already suggested. I'd go for 3-partition-sceme and keep HFS+ for Patched_Mojave: [P1/200GB]Mojave(HFS+); [P2/30GB]SnowLeopard; [P3/16GB]patched MojaveInstaller (kind of RecoveryPartition - so You don't need a USB-stick)
Some Cloud-Apps, like the GoogleDrive App, start to leave Mojave behind.
Streaming (Netflix, AppleTV+; Amazon) do work fine with Firefox, most also with Safari.
Find more here #7 ; #14 ; #125 ; https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/early-intel-trash-or-treasure-macbook-pro-2008.2122634/
 
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Yessirrom

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I've installed High Sierra with tolerable success on my 20" iMac Early 2008, with the help of High Sierra Patcher. Never tried Mojave, but there's a patcher for that machine too, maybe the same that you have?


I've found that El Capitan works best, all in all, not surprisingly. I use the chromium-legacy browser.

I am using a version of Chrome that is no longer supported with my iMac early 2008 OS X 10.11.6. It works but some sites won't accept it. I can't find any other browser to install (Opera One, Firefox, Brave). Would this Chromium browser do better? Looking at the github page, it looks very complicated. Can you link me to a page that will set up this Chromium without losing the (old unsupported) version of Chrome that I already have -- since if I lose that the whole computer seems worthless as far as internet is concerned.
 
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I am using a version of Chrome that is no longer supported with my iMac early 2008 OS X 10.11.6. It works but some sites won't accept it. I can't find any other browser to install (Opera One, Firefox, Brave). Would this Chromium browser do better? Looking at the github page, it looks very complicated. Can you link me to a page that will set up this Chromium without losing the (old unsupported) version of Chrome that I already have -- since if I lose that the whole computer seems worthless as far as internet is concerned.
I have used Chrome and Chromium side by side and they use different spaces on the mac, including different Application Support folders, so you should be fine. Just don't mix different versions of Chromium, that won't work. It's not complicated to start using Chromium-legacy, just unzip it, drag the program to the program folder, and open it, using ctrl- or right click > Open. There is also a bespoke Chromium updater, or actually two, one is customised for older versions of macOS.
 

Yessirrom

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Thanks, I'll try it. Don't know what "bespoke Chromium" but if it's music (found googling) I won't need it. It was really disappointing finding out that I can't use the iMac monitor with a Mac Mini, since that would have solved all the problems.
 

Yessirrom

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Again, thanks. Hadn't heard of these. But first a question. I have been using this old iMac with (no longer supported) Chrome for banking with the idea that it would be safer than my (new) Windows laptop (with Chrome). Any thoughts on this?
 

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I have been using this old iMac with (no longer supported) Chrome for banking with the idea that it would be safer than my (new) Windows laptop (with Chrome). Any thoughts on this?
You should always do the opposite of this; always do your banking on a computer that has an up-to-date web browser + either the latest OS or one that still gets security updates. It may not be a Mac, but it will be most secure, which is crucial when banking.
 

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Again, thanks. Hadn't heard of these. But first a question. I have been using this old iMac with (no longer supported) Chrome for banking with the idea that it would be safer than my (new) Windows laptop (with Chrome). Any thoughts on this?
Actually using an old Mac for 5 min a week just for banking and nothing else makes sense. I was doing my banking this way on my MacBook5,1 with Mac OS X Leopard and outdated browser until May 2018. I have Mojave installed on my MacBook5,1 now and obviously don't have a "5 min a week" approach at this stage.

Using a fully updated Mac or PC for the rest of your internet activity also makes sense.
 

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Thanks, I'll try it. Don't know what "bespoke Chromium" but if it's music (found googling) I won't need it.
With ”bespoke Chromium updater” I meant that there are two small programs detecting which Chromium version you have and when there is a new one, so that you can update.
 
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