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There's a new service that has compatible DRM with iTunes fairplay supposedly...

http://www.optimum.net/Finance/AP/Article?articleId=377853&categoryId=18

Qtrax Aims to Offer IPod-Friendly Tracks

LOS ANGELES, Sun Jan 27, 06:13 AM
Advertisement for the Apple iPod Nano on display at an Apple store in Palo Alto, Calif., in this Oct. 19, 2007, file photo. Qtrax, an online file-sharing service, is offering unlimited, free song downloads that are compatible with iPods, and all with the blessing of major recording companies. The services launches Sunday.

A revamped online file-sharing service aims to woo legions of music fans by offering unlimited, free song downloads that are compatible with iPods, and all with the blessing of major recording companies.

Qtrax, which makes its debut Sunday, is the latest online music venture counting on the lure of free music to draw in music fans and on advertising to pay the bills, namely record company licensing fees.

The New York-based service was among several peer-to-peer file-sharing applications that emerged following the shutdown of Napster, the pioneer service that enabled millions to illegally copy songs stored in other music fans' computers.

Qtrax shut down after a few months following its 2002 launch to avoid potential legal trouble.

The latest version of Qtrax still lets users tap into file-sharing networks to search for music, but downloads come with copy-protection technology known as digital-rights management, or DRM, to prevent users from burning copies to a CD and calculate how to divvy up advertising sales with labels.

Qtrax downloads can be stored indefinitely on PCs and transferred onto portable music players, however.

The service, which boasts a selection of up to 30 million tracks, also promises that its music downloads will be playable on Apple Inc.'s iPods and Macintosh computers as early as March.

That's unusual, as iPods only playback unrestricted MP3s files or tracks with Apple's proprietary version of DRM, dubbed FairPlay.

"We've had a technical breakthrough which enables us to put songs on an iPod without any interference from FairPlay," said Allan Klepfisz, Qtrax's president and chief executive.

Klepfisz declined to give specifics on how Qtrax will make its audio files compatible with Apple devices, but noted that "Apple has nothing to do with it."

Apple has been resistant in the past to license FairPlay to other online music retailers. That stance has effectively limited iPod users to loading up their players with tracks purchased from Apple's iTunes Music Store, or MP3s ripped from CDs or bought from vendors such as eMusic or Amazon.com.

A call to Apple was not immediately returned Saturday.

Rob Enderle, technology analyst at the San Jose-based Enderle Group, said he expects Apple would take steps to block Qtrax files from working on iPods.

Last fall, the company issued a software update for its iPhones that created problems for units modified by owners so they would work with a cellular carrier other than AT&T Inc. As a result, some modified phones ceased to work after the software update.

The move prompted antitrust lawsuits on behalf of some consumers.

Qtrax users can also download music videos and comb through album reviews, lyrics and other features. The service guarantees that users will never download spyware, adware or bogus audio files often found on file-sharing networks.

As long as the DRM on downloads and advertising in the Qtrax application aren't too obtrusive, the music service may appeal to computer users now trolling for tracks via LimeWire and other unlicensed services, Enderle said.

"This is a way to get the stuff for free and not take the risk of having the (recording industry) show up at your doorstep with a six-figure lawsuit," he said.
 
I had some questions about this site in another thread, but due to repetitious threads, I'll repost it here:

Can ads really pay all the bills?

Assuming the record companies only want 10 cents per song (and we know they actually want a lot more than this) downloaded, even a single download of each song currently listed (25 million) would exceed $2.5 million. Add operating costs, legal, etc, and things can really start to get expensive.

Suppose the site proves very successful (and why wouldn't it if it's offering free music), would ad revenue still be able to support that many downloads?

Just a curious question on my part; I really would like to see the site succeed (if it's all legit and the music selection is good).
 
I think they'll do anything to break the stranglehold Apple has on the market. Including everyone but Apple able to sell DRM Free music and a free content site, even if it never makes a dime.

If they can attract enough customers, the advertisers will pay.
 
It'll fail.

It's still P2P, meaning this system is susceptible to viruses and poor-quality music just like the other systems already in place. On top of that, there's very restrictive DRM which prevents users from burning CDs and traces the number of times each track has been played.

Considering this, why should users change? Those who continue to download illegally will continue to do so, and those who buy their music will continue to do so.
 
If they can attract enough customers, the advertisers will pay.

The question is how much. If this site were to become very popular, with say more than a million downloads per day, do you suppose advertisers will be willing to pay more and more? At some point advertising reaches its peak, at which point the market can bear no more.

I honestly don't believe that this business model can survive without some money being from the consumer's end. There's no such thing as a free lunch after all.
 
i got it downloaded but i am having trouble getting my account even setup- they are having issues-i dont know-if it really works with ipods then it might work-who knows
 
The Mac beta of this is supposedly going to be released today but it isn't available for download yet. I wonder if today will go by without a Mac beta being released?
 
i wondered the same thing

i sent an email to the support team at qtrax...i wonder when they will reply
 
Sorry for digging up a old thread, but I was just gonna start a thread on QTrax but found this one...

The Mac version hasent been released yet! :eek:

I think this sounds interesting and if it takes off I will probably use it as long as the DRM is not too restrictive.
 
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