Question about iMessage on iPhone/iPad/ML

[class77]

On the phone, iMessage is just your normal text messaging and can talk to any non-Apple subscriber to a text service. On iPad and the new Mountain Lion, are you limited to other Apple users or can you continue talking to people you have exchanged texts with on your phone?

 

[miles01110]

On the phone, iMessage is just your normal text messaging

No, it's not. An iMessage is more or less an instant message unless it fails over to the SMS service, in which case it's no longer an iMessage.

On iPad and the new Mountain Lion, are you limited to other Apple users or can you continue talking to people you have exchanged texts with on your phone?

You can iMessage anyone that has signed up for the service as well as text message mobile users if they don't have iMessage.

 

[Jare]

No, it's not. An iMessage is more or less an instant message unless it fails over to the SMS service, in which case it's no longer an iMessage.



You can iMessage anyone that has signed up for the service as well as text message mobile users if they don't have iMessage.

FAIL. You are COMPLETELY wrong. iMessage is exactly as he described. It's integrated into the messaging app and does NOT have a buddy list/online status etc. It's simply an alternative to text messaging, meant to be so seamless you barely notice it other then a blue text bubble.

 

[miles01110]

FAIL. You are COMPLETELY wrong.

Actually it's completely right. SMSs and iMessages are completely different and use completely different protocols. Lack of a buddy list is completely irrelevant.

Learn what you're talking about before replying.

 

[thewitt]

The Messages app included with iOS 5 supports SMS and MMS on iPhone, and iMessage on iPhone, iPad, Mountain Lion and iPod touch.

 

[Jare]

Actually it's completely right. SMSs and iMessages are completely different and use completely different protocols. Lack of a buddy list is completely irrelevant.

Learn what you're talking about before replying.

Again, you're wrong. You're saying iMessage is an IM service. It is not. Yes, it has different protocols then SMS, BUT:

http://www.apple.com/ios/features.html#imessage

With iMessage, we've created a new messaging service for all iOS 5 users. You can send unlimited text messages via Wi-Fi or 3G... and enjoy secure encryption for text messages.

http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/I/imessage.html

iMessage is a free service from Apple that enables users of iOS-powered devices to send text messages over Wi-Fi from mobile devices like the iPhone and iPod touch. Prior to iMessage, most users needed to use a text message plan from a mobile provider in order to be able to send text messages from their iOS-powered device.

Looks like you need to do some research.

 

[miles01110]

With iMessage, we've created a new messaging service for all iOS 5 users. You can send unlimited text messages via Wi-Fi or 3G... and enjoy secure encryption for text messages.

They are not "text messages" if you equate "text messages" with SMS, which most people do. They are more akin to instant messages than SMSs. You don't buy an iMessage plan, you buy a text message plan. iMessages are not text messages.

 

[Jare]

They are not "text messages" if you equate "text messages" with SMS, which most people do. They are more akin to instant messages than SMSs. You don't buy an iMessage plan, you buy a text message plan. iMessages are not text messages.

So you're saying Apple is wrong, and you're right?

Apple defines iMessage as a TEXT MESSAGE service. Exactly like SMS (as they even compare the two as EQUAL, one being paid for the other FREE).

 

[miles01110]

So you're saying Apple is wrong, and you're right?

Apple defines iMessage as a TEXT MESSAGE service. Exactly like SMS (as they even compare the two as EQUAL, one being paid for the other FREE).

Apple also says you need to jog your battery "to keep the electrons moving." You're being pedantic, I'm being realistic. We can agree to disagree.

 

[Jare]

Apple also says you need to jog your battery "to keep the electrons moving." You're being pedantic, I'm being realistic. We can agree to disagree.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20121922-264/apples-imessage-is-stuck-in-the-depressing-past/

Like the iOS messaging app it replaces, iMessage integrates with the SMS (Short Message Service) and MMS (Multimedia Message Service) that wireless network operators offer.

Let's put it this way, for iMessage to be in Instant Message service your messages would have to be that, Instant. They are not, they are delivered just like the traditional SMS service in some-what real time. The only "real time" part of iMessage is the ability to see the other person typing. But once the message is sent there IS A DELAY so it can be DELIVERED. Unlike a real IM service which is pretty much near instant.

You are wrong, get over it. Discussion over.

 

[hector4drake]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20121922-264/apples-imessage-is-stuck-in-the-depressing-past/

Let's put it this way, for iMessage to be in Instant Message service your messages would have to be that, Instant. They are not, they are delivered just like the traditional SMS service in some-what real time. The only "real time" part of iMessage is the ability to see the other person typing. But once the message is sent there IS A DELAY so it can be DELIVERED. Unlike a real IM service which is pretty much near instant.

You are wrong, get over it. Discussion over.

This is right, I think. But what the OP said is wrong. Can iMessage send to non-Apple users?? If it can I never heard of it..... It sends as an SMS if the receiver is not an iOS user

 

[Jare]

This is right, I think. But what the OP said is wrong. Can iMessage send to non-Apple users?? If it can I never heard of it..... It sends as an SMS if the receiver is not an iOS user

OP is wrong about non-apple users. It's Apple users only, as they'd be the only ones you could actually iMessage.

 

[white4s]

im with miles on this one. imessage is more of a instant message since it allows you to see when the person is responding back and sends/receives quicker, just like blackberrys bbm. its far from a text message. apple just says things cause they know people will believe it

 

[barredfreak]

To put it simply, take iMessage as WhatsApp Messenger, but only for iOS devices.

 

[class77]

I was just trying to ask a simple practical question. When I type up a text to send to my sisters' phones (who are not on Apple products), the message is blue but can be sent as a text by simply holding the message and saying "send as text". WILL I be able to continue those conversations when I get home on my iMac/iPad or, because they are not on Apple gear, will those texts be only available on my phone.