Question about jailbreaking, restoring and backing up

[zigmondski]

I've had an iPhone for about two months now, and when 3.0 was released, I didn't really have much that I was interested in keeping, so I didn't back it up and set it up as a new phone when I upgraded. As soon as I had done this I jailbroke it immediately.

Now that I've got a whole load of stuff on my phone that I want to keep, what is the best way to go about upgrading official firmware and jailbreaking it?

Is it possible to back up the phone, restore or upgrade, then set up as new phone, jailbreak, and then restore from the back up? Or will I be forced to restore from the backup before I jailbreak it?

From what I have read, the phone will be less likely to run into issues if I don't restore to back up, and obviously I want to get the best performance out of my phone.

It just seems like a lot of hassle to maybe have to start right from scratch when it's just an incremental firmware upgrade that might just fix a bug or two as opposed to a full blown release with a lot of new features.

Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom on the subject.

 

[zigmondski]

Was it something I said?

Will nobody help me with this?

 

[SFStateStudent]

Get AptBackup in Cydia, this will make the transition back to factory settings, then back to JB pretty easy since you'll have your JB list of apps saved.

The next big update should be 3.1 since it's in beta #3 and 3.0.1 was to fix the SMS issue.

I've restored from a backup after 3.0.1 came out and it's been running pretty much normally or without any noticeable slowdown or speed issues.

*Install AptBackup via Cydia, you can find it under System section (BigBoss source).

*To backup the Cydia installed jailbreak apps, tap on the "Backup" button which will create the list of apps.

*Then sync the iPhone with iTunes so that the list gets synced to iTunes.

*After updating your iPhone to the latest iPhone firmware, jailbreak it and reinstall AptBackup again via Cydia.

*Launch AptBackup and click "Restore" to reinstall the Cydia installed applications based on the list that was backed up using iTunes.

Hope this helps....

 

[zigmondski]

Get AptBackup in Cydia, this will make the transition back to factory settings, then back to JB pretty easy since you'll have your JB list of apps saved.

The next big update should be 3.1 since it's in beta #3 and 3.0.1 was to fix the SMS issue.

I've restored from a backup after 3.0.1 came out and it's been running pretty much normally or without any noticeable slowdown or speed issues.

*Install AptBackup via Cydia, you can find it under System section (BigBoss source).

*To backup the Cydia installed jailbreak apps, tap on the "Backup" button which will create the list of apps.

*Then sync the iPhone with iTunes so that the list gets synced to iTunes.

*After updating your iPhone to the latest iPhone firmware, jailbreak it and reinstall AptBackup again via Cydia.

*Launch AptBackup and click "Restore" to reinstall the Cydia installed applications based on the list that was backed up using iTunes.

Hope this helps....

Thanks very much for your response, I will definitely install and use AptBackup. I would also like to know about the backing up and restoring of system settings, texts, etc.

Just to get this absolutely clear in my head, the best overall process here would be to:

1. Backup the phone manually in iTunes
2. Restore to factory settings
3. Upgrade to new firmware release
4. Set up as new phone
5. Jailbreak
6. Restore from backup (not AptBackup)

Sorry if I'm sounding thick here, I just want to get this correct.

 

[SFStateStudent]

+1 ^^^ That's what is highly recommended by several tutorials, iClarified, iPhone Dev Team and many of the others on the internet. I've JB with Purplera1n, but with FW 3.0.1's release I went to Redsn0w. Though Purplera1n was more stable than Redsn0w, Purplera1n is still not operable. I've always gone with a backup, and have not had a problem. I setup my new 3GS iPhone as new when I bought it and reloaded my apps, music, video and contacts via MobileMe, then went in and used Aptbackup for my JB apps once the JB was released. Good luck.....

 

[bytethese]

Thanks very much for your response, I will definitely install and use AptBackup. I would also like to know about the backing up and restoring of system settings, texts, etc.

Just to get this absolutely clear in my head, the best overall process here would be to:

1. Backup the phone manually in iTunes
2. Restore to factory settings
3. Upgrade to new firmware release
4. Set up as new phone
5. Jailbreak
6. Restore from backup (not AptBackup)

Sorry if I'm sounding thick here, I just want to get this correct.

Close!

1. Download AptBackup and use it on your Jailbroken iPhone, clicking Backup.
2. Sync your iPhone, it'll backup as a normal part of the process.
3. Upgrade to new firmware release
4. If prompted to setup phone afterwards, choose your most recent backup.
5. Jailbreak with redsn0w
6. Download and use AptBackup, click Restore and it'll start restoring your jailbroken apps.

I've done the above a few times now.

 

[jasperk99]

Close!

1. Download AptBackup and use it on your Jailbroken iPhone, clicking Backup.
2. Sync your iPhone, it'll backup as a normal part of the process.
3. Upgrade to new firmware release
4. If prompted to setup phone afterwards, choose your most recent backup.
5. Jailbreak with redsn0w
6. Download and use AptBackup, click Restore and it'll start restoring your jailbroken apps.

I've done the above a few times now.

Just a quick question; I just downloaded aptbackup and backed up and synced with Itunes. I had made a backup prior to jailbreaking and installing 3.01; it was my understanding that i had to restore using the backup made prior to jailbreaking and then rejailbreak; If I do this then do I lose the apt backup i just made ---or--- do I use the most recent backup itunes made which is a jailbroken backup then rejailbreak and then use the restore function on aptbackup

 

[bytethese]

Just a quick question; I just downloaded aptbackup and backed up and synced with Itunes. I had made a backup prior to jailbreaking and installing 3.01; it was my understanding that i had to restore using the backup made prior to jailbreaking and then rejailbreak; If I do this then do I lose the apt backup i just made ---or--- do I use the most recent backup itunes made which is a jailbroken backup then rejailbreak and then use the restore function on aptbackup

Yes, to the latter part of your question.

 

[superflush]

I'm somewhat confused myself with all of this.
When I went from 2.2.1 to 3.0.1, the only thing I lost was my jailbroken apps. Everything else was there, I believe, my settings, my music, my photos etc.

However, when I upgraded from 1.0.2 to 2.2.1, I did a backup and a media backup (if those 2 are actually different). When I jailbroke after updating to 2.2.1, I had to restore from backup, but this restore from backup only restored my calendar, sms, etc .. but it didn't restore my music, my photos, etc. Since my music was all in iTunes, I got that back on there just fine. However, I had to go digging for the hidden files of my 'media backup' to get the photos I had taken on my iPhone but never synced to my pc.

Anyways, it was my understanding that an OS update that goes up one whole number (as in, to 2.x or 3.x from the previous number), would wipe out some of your stuff. But with the latest upgrade for me, all I lost was my jailbroken apps.
Still really confused about what wipes your settings, calendar, messages and what wipes your 'media' such as music, podcasts, & photos ....