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AnrBjotk

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I'm a little confused over java.
I wanted to download an app from sourceforge (which made me nervous as I've never used that site before. Is it safe?) But in order to run it I need "java runtime enviroment" (is THAT safe?)
To do that I need to download Java 8 update 111.

I tried checking which java I had on one of those websites, but I told me that "browser has java disabled". What does that mean? Am I running without java? And can I download Java 8 update 111 without any worry?
 
If you download and install the Java SE kit (8u111), the app will work: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html

However if an app is written in Java on macOS, the company behind it wouldn't get any of my time or effort. It's lazy and unsecure. If the programmers can't be bothered to learn a proper language or code a native Mac application, then I wouldn't bother using their app.

Out of interest, what application was it? I'm sure we can find a much better alternative for you.
 
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Java is not installed by default and Safari 10 turns off Internet plugins, among which Java, by default. When you install Java 8, you need to go to Safari settings → ‘Security’ → ‘Plug-in Settings’ to turn it on for a specific website. I would not enable the Java plugin in Safari unless you need it. If only a program needs it, then you don’t need to enable the Safari plugin.
 
AnrBjotk said:
I'm a little confused over java.
I wanted to download an app from sourceforge (which made me nervous as I've never used that site before. Is it safe?) But in order to run it I need "java runtime enviroment" (is THAT safe?)
To do that I need to download Java 8 update 111.

I tried checking which java I had on one of those websites, but I told me that "browser has java disabled". What does that mean? Am I running without java? And can I download Java 8 update 111 without any worry?
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Sourceforge was involved in a really skeevy deal where they were bundling in adware without the app developer's permission. Article here. Sourceforge says they no longer do this, but I would not download anything from a web site that would pull the stunt they did. But that's just me.

To clarify a bit on Java. There are two components at play here. To run a Java app like you want to, you need to install the Java runtime like keysofanxiety mentioned. That is different than the Java web plugin KALLT mentioned. So you could have the runtime installed and run local Java apps and have the web plugin turned off or even deleted.
 
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keysofanxiety said:
If you download and install the Java SE kit (8u111), the app will work: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html

However if an app is written in Java on macOS, the company behind it wouldn't get any of my time or effort. It's lazy and unsecure. If the programmers can't be bothered to learn a proper language or code a native Mac application, then I wouldn't bother using their app.

Out of interest, what application was it? I'm sure we can find a much better alternative for you.
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The app is "TuxGuitar" Now, you find me a alternative ;) (Hah!)
 
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The app is "TuxGuitar" Now, you find me a alternative ;) (Hah!)
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Of all the apps...!! I use the Windows version of Guitar Pro 5.2 through CrossOver. But it's far from ideal.

You've left me with a toughy. GP6 is utter rubbish and the native Mac version of GP5 (compiled for both PPC and Intel) is massively unstable. Trust me, I tried it on a PowerBook G4 and it was just as bad as on an '06 Intel Core Duo. I don't even think GP5 will even run on the newer iterations of OS X.

Yeah, I'm afraid you'll have to download Java to use TuxGuitar. There isn't really a better app either. :(
 
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keysofanxiety said:
Of all the apps...!! I use the Windows version of Guitar Pro 5.2 through CrossOver. But it's far from ideal.

You've left me with a toughy. GP6 is utter rubbish and the native Mac version of GP5 (compiled for both PPC and Intel) is massively unstable. Trust me, I tried it on a PowerBook G4 and it was just as bad as on an '06 Intel Core Duo. I don't even think GP5 will even run on the newer iterations of OS X.

Yeah, I'm afraid you'll have to download Java to use TuxGuitar. There isn't really a better app either. :(
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Aight. :) Thanks. I'll boldly go there then. And which Jave enviroment should I get and where? Does it matter?
 
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Aight. :) Thanks. I'll boldly go there then. And which Jave enviroment should I get and where? Does it matter?
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Just the 8u111 for OS X is all you'll need :)
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