Other Question about phones with 5G

[ssledoux]

Okay, I have 5G pop up sometimes on my phone when I’m in the city, as in it shows there is 5G, but I know I don’t have a 5G capable phone, so I’m curious about that.

I’m also wondering if I DO have a 5G phone, what will happen when there is no 5G in the area.

I’m not really pumped about having 5G - reading about some of the potential health effects from it make me not want to be exposed to it all the time (probably not likely where I live anyway).

I know I’m going to go back to a slightly larger phone. I bought the SE2 and I absolutely love it, but I’m having a lot of trouble typing on it. Honestly, IDK if the 5.4 is gonna be big enough, and I’m not really interested in going back to a 6.1 (I came from an 11).

I’m just weighing whether I should ultimately go with an 11 pro so I can get something that will have a bigger keyboard, but not be a much bigger overall device since I really have no desire to have 5G.

Since I had planned all along to give my granddaughter the SE2 when the 12s came out, buying a new phone at some point was already in my plans. I’m just trying to figure out which route I will take, and 5G does come into play for me. OLED always has to, but I’m thinking that’s something I’m gonna have to try and live with either way going forward.

I love everything about my SE2, so I’m trying to get the typing thing down, but thinking about my options just in case.

 

[marty1980]

AT&T will show “5Ge” in areas that will or already have their version of 5G. It’s really just LTE. It’s a confusing advertisement stunt they’ve pulled.

There is no current iPhone with 5G.

 

[rui no onna]

Are you on AT&T? If so, that probably shows 5GE and not 5G and that's just AT&T's branding for gigabit LTE.

Mind, the 5.4" iPhone is probably going to be narrower than the 4.7" iPhone SE2 so I don't really see that solving your typing issues. Might actually be worse.

 

[ssledoux]

AT&T will show “5Ge” in areas that will or already have their version of 5G. It’s really just LTE. It’s a confusing advertisement stunt they’ve pulled.

There is no current iPhone with 5G.

Yeah I know the phones don’t actually have 5G, but I also don’t really want 5G, so I was just curious what would happen if I have a phone with 5G but don’t live where there IS 5G - am I just gonna get LTE or whatever?
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Are you on AT&T? If so, that probably shows 5GE and not 5G and that's just AT&T's branding for gigabit LTE.

Mind, the 5.4" iPhone is probably going to be narrower than the 4.7" iPhone SE2 so I don't really see that solving your typing issues. Might actually be worse.

Yeah that’s what I’ve pretty much realized, and why I’m thinking if I want something that’s a little bigger, but not as big as 6.1, I may have to go with 11pro. Since I don’t care for 5G, that isn’t really an issue. Obviously there will probably be features on the 12s I really want, but I have to decide if features or SIZE are more important. Right now I feel like it’s size, but once the features are out there... ;-p

I LOVE the size of my SE2, and it’s really got all I need as far as features. I am just struggling with the typing a lot.

 

[rui no onna]

Yeah I know the phones don’t actually have 5G, but I also don’t really want 5G, so I was just curious what would happen if I have a phone with 5G but don’t live where there IS 5G - am I just gonna get LTE or whatever?

Yes. If I remember correctly, iPhones can still fall back all the way down to GSM/2G if that's the only signal available.

 

[one more]

I LOVE the size of my SE2, and it’s really got all I need as far as features. I am just struggling with the typing a lot.

Just out of curiosity, have you tried typing by sliding your finger over your iPhone SE keyboard? This might actually help:


QuickPath
The QuickType keyboard now includes QuickPath, so you can swipe your finger from one letter to the next to enter a word without removing your finger from the keyboard.

Swipe or tap to type
You can swipe or tap to type interchangeably, so you can choose what’s most convenient even if you’re mid‑sentence.

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[ssledoux]

Just out of curiosity, have you tried typing by sliding your finger over your iPhone SE keyboard? This might actually help:


QuickPath
The QuickType keyboard now includes QuickPath, so you can swipe your finger from one letter to the next to enter a word without removing your finger from the keyboard.

Swipe or tap to type
You can swipe or tap to type interchangeably, so you can choose what’s most convenient even if you’re mid‑sentence.

iOS 18

iOS 18 makes iPhone even more personal, with deeper customization, new ways to connect, easier-to-find photos, and support for Apple Intelligence.

www.apple.com

I have but man that’s difficult for me to make myself do. It’s so counterintuitive when you’re used to typing (well, for me anyway).

 

[now i see it]

I have large hands and fingers and the fastest iPhone I ever typed on using one finger was an iPhone 4S. Yes the tiniest iPhone.
I got to the point where I could fly through typing text that it looked almost impossible that a person could do that. Really really fast. Just using my index finger.
Then I got an iPhone 5 with its slightly larger screen and my typing speed decreased a bit.
Then I got an iPhone 6 Plus and my typing speed went to hell. Way slower because the keyboard was more spread out - finger had to move farther to type each letter.

When I go back to my 5 or 4S and try to type on those now, they seem too small and confining - but that's only because I'm not used to them.

My advice is to continue using your current iPhone. You'll eventually get used to it. In my experience, a larger screen makes for slower typing

 

[ssledoux]

I have large hands and fingers and the fastest iPhone I ever typed on using one finger was an iPhone 4S. Yes the tiniest iPhone.
I got to the point where I could fly through typing text that it looked almost impossible that a person could do that. Really really fast. Just using my index finger.
Then I got an iPhone 5 with its slightly larger screen and my typing speed decreased a bit.
Then I got an iPhone 6 Plus and my typing speed went to hell. Way slower because the keyboard was more spread out - finger had to move farther to type each letter.

When I go back to my 5 or 4S and try to type on those now, they seem too small and confining - but that's only because I'm not used to them.

My advice is to continue using your current iPhone. You'll eventually get used to it. In my experience, a larger screen makes for slower typing

This hasn’t been my experience. I have been using the bigger phones for years; most recently an 11. I didn’t have nearly the issue typing on it as I do my SE. I’m half wondering if part of the issue isn’t my eyesight because I know it’s getting worse as I get older, but geez it’s frustrating.

 

[marty1980]

From what I’m reading a lot of the health concerns for 5G have been debunked as an evolution of conspiracy that has surrounded cellular service for decades.

Whether your phone uses it or not doesn’t matter much. As more people around you get 5G, you will be exposed to the same waves that those conspiracies raise concern about.

 

[JagRunner]

Okay, I have 5G pop up sometimes on my phone when I’m in the city, as in it shows there is 5G, but I know I don’t have a 5G capable phone, so I’m curious about that.

I’m also wondering if I DO have a 5G phone, what will happen when there is no 5G in the area.

I’m not really pumped about having 5G - reading about some of the potential health effects from it make me not want to be exposed to it all the time (probably not likely where I live anyway).

I know I’m going to go back to a slightly larger phone. I bought the SE2 and I absolutely love it, but I’m having a lot of trouble typing on it. Honestly, IDK if the 5.4 is gonna be big enough, and I’m not really interested in going back to a 6.1 (I came from an 11).

I’m just weighing whether I should ultimately go with an 11 pro so I can get something that will have a bigger keyboard, but not be a much bigger overall device since I really have no desire to have 5G.

Since I had planned all along to give my granddaughter the SE2 when the 12s came out, buying a new phone at some point was already in my plans. I’m just trying to figure out which route I will take, and 5G does come into play for me. OLED always has to, but I’m thinking that’s something I’m gonna have to try and live with either way going forward.

I love everything about my SE2, so I’m trying to get the typing thing down, but thinking about my options just in case.

Can I be one of your grandkids?

Kidding aside, just get the 5.8 11 Pro if you think the 6.1 iPhone 12 is going to be too big. But I have a feeling you'll be itching for the new 12s when they come out

 

[ssledoux]

Can I be one of your grandkids?

Kidding aside, just get the 5.8 11 Pro if you think the 6.1 iPhone 12 is going to be too big. But I have a feeling you'll be itching for the new 12s when they come out

Lol sure! The more the merrier! ;-p

I actually did order one from Apple today for a couple reasons. 1 - I want to see what I think of the size, and 2 - I also need to see if I can handle OLED. I ordered from Apple instead of AT&T so I can return it if need be. Let me just say, I NEVER do that, but I made an exception here so I can really get a feel for using OLED for a couple days. I haven’t even ordered a screen protector or case (which is unheard of) because I just don’t know what to think.

If I have an issue with it, that’s gonna be a game changer; I’ll either have to just get used to the SE or go back to an 11, OR hold out for an SE+ if that winds up really being a thing.

As far as the 6.1 pro, I feel like it’s gonna be really close to the iPhone 11 size, and I’m so ready to NOT have a phone that big.

 

[5gsumdae]

5G uses 4G to establish the initial connection and also 5G drops back to 4G if the connection is poor. So 4G will not be made obsolete by 5G.

5G uses 3 frequency bands, low, medium, and high. The 2 lower frequency bands are already in use for 4G and the throughput for 5G is slightly higher than for the same frequency band in 4G.

The highest frequency band utilized by 5G called mmWave can have throughput up to 1.8 GBits/sec but that frequency has shorter range and more difficulty penetrating walls. Most like best for dense urban area with many small cells.

The use case where 5G will really help is where you are in a crowded area, such as an outdoor stadium with thousands of people. A 5G antenna can support up to 1 million users whereas 4G can support up to 100,000. 5G would solve the problem that many people have seen where they are in a crowded area and get very slow throughput.

For me it is more of a "checkbox feature" where you would like it if available but would not be a primary requirement. I have an 11 now, came from an SE1 and am interested in the 5.4" 12 but will likely wait.