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dufftop

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Feb 22, 2011
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My coworker is our producer/director video guy and is currently using a 5 year old iMac Pro which is having problems. Logic board has been replaced twice in the last year (first replacement was out of warranty when it died, of course), plus this time it took out a couple of ram modules as well when it fried.

Logic board has been replaced again, and ram modules will be too, but right now he has to get some stuff done ASAP, so he's limping along with less ram.

Besides the point that he should have a backup computer, he needs a better machine. What I need help with is this (he's good with his software, drones, cameras, etc. - not so much with the Mac itself).

His primary video apps are simply Premiere Pro and After Effects and he has a lot of plugins for both - Sapphire, Mocha, etc. to name some favorites, which do require some horsepower to render or preview I guess (not my area). He has plenty of external storage (Thunderbolt Raids, misc other drives) and some audio hardware (not that knowledgeable about that stuff - but I assume it should work with a M-series computer - I think).

Personally, I think that waiting for a new M-whatever Mac Pro (whenever it comes out) is overkill for his needs and that a Studio might fit the bill. He is doing more 4k stuff these days, and dealing with raw files. He doesn't use internal storage for anything other than apps and system primarily.

A Studio Ultra with maxed ram and SOC with 2TB storage comes in at $6,200. Is that overkill for what he does? Underkill (is that a word?)

Would a maxed Studio Max be sufficient - Ultra is overkill for his apps? - wait for a M(?) Mac Pro?

I'm leaning toward the Ultra setup, maybe with even more internal storage, but maybe I'm wrong. I think a new Pro, even the low end will be overkill (although maybe there is no such thing) for his needs, plus who knows when they will get here.

Anyone advice from those who know would be greatly appreciated!
 

ed.

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Hello! Without much doubt any M-XXX machine will blow the old mac pro out of the water. My specific experience is on After Effects, I’ve been using it on laptops and imacs and mac pros since 2003 or so, and these days on my M1-max macbook pro it’s the first time that it truly feels fast in pretty much anything you throw at it. It took 20 years and apple making their own processors, but we got there finally!

Max out the RAM, as that can never be enough (and will allow AE to use more cores for rendering), although you might not really need the a lot of internal storage: once you have apps and OS on the internal one, all work files should be fine on fast external storage, although external storage that matches the internal speed might get expensive, so evaluate your options.

I’d say go for the Ultra: it will give some more years of longevity which is nice in a professional setting where you want a stable setup and don’t want to be forced to upgrade machine too often. Not sure whether for that workflow you really need the extra GPU cores, so you might save something on the processor.

One thing I advise you to make 200% sure before you proceed is to check that all the third party plugins makers have released an apple silicon version. If it’s not available you’re not blocked from using them, but then you have to run the intel version of AE which is alright but not as fast as it could be.
 

dufftop

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Feb 22, 2011
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Thanks for the input! We are going with the Ultra maxed except for ssd. 1 or 2 TB is fine. SOC might be overkill, but at least it will be future proof for awhile.

I've checked all his AE and Premiere plugins and they all have Apple silicon versions, so that's good to go.

Should be all good - just wanted a little verification before I jack up the bosses credit card :)
 
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Killerbob

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And just FYI - do not migrate the old Mac Pro to the new Mac Studio. Install all apps from scratch, that way you are sure to install Apple Silicon versions…
 
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dufftop

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Feb 22, 2011
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Yup - had no plans to migrate. Had an issue with that on his former machine. Starting from scratch all the way
 
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