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Quick question: Where is bootcamp on the new iMac?

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raysmd

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So, I just got my iMac and did a clean install and made a partition for windows. I was hoping that there would be an option to burn a drivers CD for the winxp install, but it didn't happen. Looked through the OSX install DVDs and bootcamp is no where to be found.

Should I just use the version available on apple.com? or am I looking in the wrong place?


Thanks
 
search for bootcamp on the apple website it has a download for bootcamp beta and it has you burn a drivers disc when you do it, i know this because i just used bootcamp last night to install windows xp....good luck
 
This is bogus. I partition my HD during OSX clean install with a 20G windows partition and now bootcamp won't even run because I don't have a "single mac partition."


any way around this?
 
raysmd said:
This is bogus. I partition my HD during OSX clean install with a 20G windows partition and now bootcamp won't even run because I don't have a "single mac partition."


any way around this?
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Just burn the driver CD. After that reboot and boot off of the Windows disc.
 
I can't. Bootcamp won't even run at this point.


don't tell me a have to format and reintall osx.
 
raysmd said:
This is bogus. I partition my HD during OSX clean install with a 20G windows partition and now bootcamp won't even run because I don't have a "single mac partition."


any way around this?
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Bootcamp will be built into Leopard. What's important to understand is that when you do a clean install partitioning the hard drive is not intended for Windows to be installed on one of the partitions. That's for OS X to be on both partitions. Apple does not design the Mac to be a Windows computer. Bootcamp is designed to bridge gaps for people actually switching to OS X.
If you bought your new iMac to use it primarily as a Windows machine the Mac is not the best choice of a computer.
 
Here is all you need to know ...

raysmd said:
So, I just got my iMac and did a clean install and made a partition for windows. I was hoping that there would be an option to burn a drivers CD for the winxp install, but it didn't happen. Looked through the OSX install DVDs and bootcamp is no where to be found.

Should I just use the version available on apple.com? or am I looking in the wrong place?


Thanks
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Go here: :)

Apple Boot Camp Instructions
 
raysmd said:
I can't. Bootcamp won't even run at this point.


don't tell me a have to format and reintall osx.
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You don't need to run Boot Camp beyond burning the drivers to CD. You can insert the Windows installer disc and then boot off it by hitting 'C' after the boot chime.

HLdan said:
Bootcamp will be built into Leopard. What's important to understand is that when you do a clean install partitioning the hard drive is not intended for Windows to be installed on one of the partitions. That's for OS X to be on both partitions. Apple does not design the Mac to be a Windows computer. Bootcamp is designed to bridge gaps for people actually switching to OS X.
If you bought your new iMac to use it primarily as a Windows machine the Mac is not the best choice of a computer.
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A Mac runs Windows just like any other x86 computer does with the same specifications.
 
Eidorian said:
You don't need to run Boot Camp beyond burning the drivers to CD. You can insert the Windows installer disc and then boot off it by hitting 'C' after the boot chime.

A Mac runs Windows just like any other x86 computer does with the same specifications.
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Actually not. Apple uses EFI and Windows uses BIOS. OS X is required to be on the computer in order to get updates for firmware and Windows drivers so the Mac does not independently run Windows by default. I know a lot of Windows users try to convince themselves otherwise because they want to believe Macs are like any other x86 computer.
 
HLdan said:
Actually not. Apple uses EFI and Windows uses BIOS. OS X is required to be on the computer in order to get updates for firmware and Windows drivers so the Mac does not independently run Windows by default. I know a lot of Windows users try to convince themselves otherwise because they want to believe Macs are like any other x86 computer.
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I will admit you do need the proper Boot ROM and at least 10.4.6 for additional firmware update but after that you effectively have a Windows only computer. Sure you can't get any firmware updates after that but you can remove OS X and be fine.

EFI simply goes into BIOS emulation for XP and Vista 32-bit. I don't have any experience with Vista x64 and its EFI support.

Anything else?
 
Eidorian said:
I will admit you do need the proper Boot ROM and at least 10.4.6 for additional firmware update but after that you effectively have a Windows only computer. Sure you can't get any firmware updates after that but you can remove OS X and be fine.

EFI simply goes into BIOS emulation for XP and Vista 32-bit. I don't have any experience with Vista x64 and its EFI support.

Anything else?
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I don't disagree with you one bit. However I don't see why anyone would go through such lengths and buy a Mac to turn it into a Windows only computer. Set up the scenario, you buy a new iMac, install Windows, remove the OS X partition and run it as a Windows only computer.

The Firewire ports don't perform as intended. Firewire is a powered bus that provides power to certain peripherals. Doesn't provide any power while in Windows. Laptop Macs won't perform certain functions with the trackpad or keyboard. And the biggie, something goes wrong with your computer and you need service. Apple will not service the computer without OS X installed because they don't support Windows, just the bootcamp partition only. Removing the OS X partition will drop support from Apple. The user will be forced to reformat to install OS X back to get any service and if the computer isn't running well reformatting could be an issue.
My point is it's best to buy a physical PC if the Mac is not going to be used as a "Mac".
 
What's the point? The best scenario is that you install Win to keep in touch with all the old apps you can't live with whilst switching, use Win as a comfort blanket until you break out of your comfort zone. Then you realise that Mac-side has all you need, and you drop the Win dependency.

Mine will get a 32Gb install just for some legacy games, and then *poof* it's all over!
 
HLdan said:
I don't disagree with you one bit. However I don't see why anyone would go through such lengths and buy a Mac to turn it into a Windows only computer. Set up the scenario, you buy a new iMac, install Windows, remove the OS X partition and run it as a Windows only computer.

The Firewire ports don't perform as intended. Firewire is a powered bus that provides power to certain peripherals. Doesn't provide any power while in Windows. Laptop Macs won't perform certain functions with the trackpad or keyboard. And the biggie, something goes wrong with your computer and you need service. Apple will not service the computer without OS X installed because they don't support Windows, just the bootcamp partition only. Removing the OS X partition will drop support from Apple. The user will be forced to reformat to install OS X back to get any service and if the computer isn't running well reformatting could be an issue.
My point is it's best to buy a physical PC if the Mac is not going to be used as a "Mac".
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I'll agree with you there. Still, I do know some users here that have bought a Mac to only install Windows on it. It does seem a bit roundabout but it has happened.
 
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