MP 1,1-5,1 Radeon RX 580 Mac Rom flashing potential now that Mac Pro is available?

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I presume there's not been Mac ROM firmware flashing solution due to no RX Radeon Cards being made retail for Mac's.

Is there now hope this can change?

Now that the Mac Pro 2019 is making its way Beverly Hills mansions, possibly we can convince some rich millionaire dude like Justin Bieber to extract a ROM from an RX 580 card and make available so we can flash our PC cards?

Or not likely cos rich dudes don't configure their new Mac Pro's with a low end RX 580, completely ****** us all cos they opt for their $3,000 Pro cards, ahaha??

Damn you Apple, you don't make a real computer for 7 years when I had loads of money, and needed badly a modern computer, now i'm poor and you release a real computer for rich dudes, FFS!

Please make a Mac, cut a Mac Pro in half, with 4 PCI, but AMD Ryzen (user installable upgradable) for $2-3,000.
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oh, and stop making everyone life such a torture with stupid proprietary Mac ROM video cards. What on earth do they possibly need to create a specific Mac ROM in the first place. Here's an idea, user install PC Video card, macOS (since they love gathering analytics) do compatibility check on video card, and notify us of a firmware upgrade...and yay boot screens.

 

[goMac]

Very unlikely. The 2019 has likely shifted to using standard GPU firmware. So there won’t be a 2010 compatible Mac ROM to lift.

2019 now supports standard PC Cards. No firmwares required.

 

[tsialex]

I presume there's not been Mac ROM firmware flashing solution due to no RX Radeon Cards being made retail for Mac's.

Is there now hope this can change?

Now that the Mac Pro 2019 is making its way Beverly Hills mansions, possibly we can convince some rich millionaire dude like Justin Bieber to extract a ROM from an RX 580 card and make available so we can flash our PC cards?

Or not likely cos rich dudes don't configure their new Mac Pro's with a low end RX 580, completely ****** us all cos they opt for their $3,000 Pro cards, ahaha??

Damn you Apple, you don't make a real computer for 7 years when I had loads of money, and needed badly a modern computer, now i'm poor and you release a real computer for rich dudes, FFS!

Please make a Mac, cut a Mac Pro in half, with 4 PCI, but AMD Ryzen (user installable upgradable) for $2-3,000.
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oh, and stop making everyone life such a torture with stupid proprietary Mac ROM video cards. What on earth do they possibly need to create a specific Mac ROM in the first place. Here's an idea, user install PC Video card, macOS (since they love gathering analytics) do compatibility check on video card, and notify us of a firmware upgrade...and yay boot screens.

MP5,1 pre-boot configuration support requires UGA protocol, all Macs after 2013 are GOP.

GOP EFI modules and GPUs that support it are incompatible with UGA pre-boot configuration support and useless for MP5,1.

 

[SnakeCoils]

Just a thought: during these years we have seen a lot of firmware modifications for our beloved MacPros so could it be that someday code portions of the new 7,1 machine will find their way in a 5,1 too through a modded firmware with GOP support made by a brave programmer? The 6,1 did not have PCIe slots but the 7,1 does and so may theoretically be possible to put the GOP code inside and connect the right resources to allow the 4,1/5,1 machines to use standard PC cards as goMac said?

 

[tsialex]

Just a thought: during these years we have seen a lot of firmware modifications for our beloved MacPros so could it be that someday code portions of the new 7,1 machine will find their way in a 5,1 too through a modded firmware with GOP support made by a brave programmer? The 6,1 did not have PCIe slots but the 7,1 does and so may theoretically be possible to put the GOP code inside and connect the right resources to allow the 4,1/5,1 machines to use standard PC cards as goMac said?

Not possible for a lot of reasons.

For start, MP7,1 is a UEFI Mac, while MP5,1 is a EFI. UEFI modules from Macs after 2015 are not compatible anymore with MP5,1 EFI. Newer Macs firmwares are compiled with very different compilers, different codebase for different architectures and with totally different optimisations that make even NVMe modules incompatibles.

Maybe someone crazy enough can develop a shim to translate GOP calls to UGA, but I won't bet any money on this.

 

[SnakeCoils]

Perfectly clear, thank you very much for the detailed explanation Alex. The translation shim reminds me the MoltenVK libraries where the Vulkan APIs are translated to Metal enabling the Mac porting of wonderful software like Dolphin, the Wii/GameCube emulator that otherwise would have suffered always of deadly slow Apple's OpenGL layer. Oh well, time to start to put together some money for a used 7,1 MacPro

 

[goMac]

Just a thought: during these years we have seen a lot of firmware modifications for our beloved MacPros so could it be that someday code portions of the new 7,1 machine will find their way in a 5,1 too through a modded firmware with GOP support made by a brave programmer? The 6,1 did not have PCIe slots but the 7,1 does and so may theoretically be possible to put the GOP code inside and connect the right resources to allow the 4,1/5,1 machines to use standard PC cards as goMac said?

Someone was working on a shin in another thread here. Not sure how far they got.

GOP is a known standard. The Mac Pro 7,1 probably won’t add anything that will be helpful to the 5,1. And as mentioned the 7,1 firmware won’t work with the 5,1. Too much has changed in the ten year gap between the two machines.