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RAM for MBP

The cheaper one is made if generic memory chips and only has a 1-year warranty. The more expensive one is made with name-brade modules and has a lifetime guarantee.

I would like to hear CanadaRAM on whether DMS' econoram is a viable choice. I just know that a lot of economy memory can cause kernel panics and other problems.

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DMS Website said:
Why EconoRAM:
• Pre qualified OEM brand chips
• 1 Year advanced replacement guarantee
• 30 Day money back guarantee
• Our own in house test lab to assure long-term component reliability
• 20 Years of unsurpassed quality and service
• Online discounts for resellers and educators
• Free technical support for our customers
• We answer our phones and your questions (No telephone directory prompts)

DMS EconoRAM modules are assembled with components commonly referred to as OEM components. OEM components are not full factory tested, and are sold in bulk to manufacturers at a discounted price. EconoRAM was introduced for the budget minded consumer, who still require the DMS assurance of quality and compatibility. Our EconoRam line is assembled with generic brand components that are tested in our own in-house test lab for quality assurance. DMS EconoRAM is only purchased from pre-qualified vendors. All EconoRAM carries a 1 year DMS warranty. If you compare DMS prices with comparable product, you will find we have the lowest price for the highest quality.
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i cheaped out on my mac with generic ram and about 9 months later i started getting random infrequint but still anoying kernel panics.:mad: A few months later i found out some generic ram cuased this and upgraded from 1.25gb to 2gb with the name brand ram. Haven't had a problem since.:)
 
kevin.rivers said:
Sure. You pay your high prices for the same thing.
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I disagree. After admining a number of audio workstations for almost a decade now, I can firmly say that name brand memory from a reputable source causes fewer problems. Memory will eventually wear out, but I have to say that venders like Crucial and on the expensive side Newerram have been worth the price for me. My error logs prove me out. For my personal computers, I go for a good warranty from a good dealer.

This said Newegg is not a fly-by-night company. So if somebody suggests a new ram manufacturer that is sold through a good retailer, then I would jump on it.
 
kevin.rivers said:
Sure. You pay your high prices for the same thing.
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I bought cheap RAM from newegg about a year ago. After going through 4 sticks of Kingston RAM, and every stick causing kernel panics, I finally paid more $$ for memory from datamem. And guess what? No more kernel panics.

If I had listened to advice in the first place, I wouldn't have wasted 1 month and a half of headaches. But feel free to not learn from the experience of others.
 
Eniregnat said:
I disagree. After admining a number of audio workstations for almost a decade now, I can firmly say that name brand memory from a reputable source causes fewer problems. Memory will eventually wear out, but I have to say that venders like Crucial and on the expensive side Newerram have been worth the price for me. My error logs prove me out. For my personal computers, I go for a good warranty from a good dealer.

This said Newegg is not a fly-by-night company. So if somebody suggests a new ram manufacturer that is sold through a good retailer, then I would jump on it.
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If you want to pay more for it. You deal with audio workstations, most likely they have a workstation motherboard in them, meaning they most likely take registered RAM. Registered Memory is made to work. I could be wrong about what you are working on. But I wouldn't have an audio workstation running on run of the mill parts.

The computer world is full of incompatibilites and bad hardware. Macs are no different. I don't really think they are more picky than anything other computer. However, companies like Crucial, Kingston, DataMem, etc. cash in on the ignorance of home users. They are too afraid to buy the wrong thing and have it break. So they pay more(not knowingly more than likely) to insure compatibility. Which is fine, they are making heaps of money on these people.

However, having the background I have in computers. I know better.

Lifetime warranty is pretty much a standard in memory now, since it is so cheap. DataMem not offering one on their EconoRam is absurb. They know the ignorant masses will go for the lifetime and spend more money for something they can get cheaper.

I am all about buying good parts for computers, but I am not a fool and will not spend what some of you are spending for your "premium" memory.
 
Heb1228 said:
I bought cheap RAM from newegg about a year ago. After going through 4 sticks of Kingston RAM, and every stick causing kernel panics, I finally paid more $$ for memory from datamem. And guess what? No more kernel panics.

If I had listened to advice in the first place, I wouldn't have wasted 1 month and a half of headaches. But feel free to not learn from the experience of others.
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I have nearly 7 years of experience with computer hardware. So save your experiences for another fool.
 
Now kids, don't make me pull this thread over. I'll do it.

This is turning into a yelling match. Both points made. Both sides well presented. This isn't a contest. While I have strong opinions, I know my best tactic is to present my experience and knowledge, and let everything else go.

Back to the thread, the up shot is there is no "one best way" to answer your question. I have read that Datamem is a good company on this site.
 
Heb1228 said:
You're right, the kernel panics were all in my head.
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Bad ram and incompatibilites happen. It could happen with the memory I plan to buy. You can do what you want. People have a right to know the alternatives.

Also, I am sure someone has gotten bad RAM from one of the sources often talked about here. It happens. Computer parts are not perfect and never will be.

Like I said, if you want to spend more go for it.

BTW, Kingston has always been garbage didn't you get the memo?
 
Eniregnat said:
Now kids, don't make me pull this thread over. I'll do it.

This is turning into a yelling match. Both points made. Both sides well presented. This isn't a contest. While I have strong opinions, I can where my best tactic is to present my experience and knowledge. There is no "one best way" to answer this question.
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No there isn't one best answer. But I am tired of the blatant plugs for the same sellers over and over. There is good inexpensive RAM out there, but you never know it here because as soon as you post something about it you get some negative comments.

"Kernel Panics" "DataMem has a lifetime warranty"

These biased opinions need to end. We should as a community focus on educating people about these things so that they can make there own decisions.
 
kevin.rivers said:
These biased opinions need to end. We should as a community focus on educating people about these things so that they can make there own decisions.
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I and others around here recommend places were we know you will get good RAM that is not going to cause problems. Your "maybe-I-will/maybe-I-won't have problems" is not the kind of advice I like to give.

I know you say you've been in "computer hardware" for seven years... how long have you been Macs? Just outta curiosity.
 
kevin.rivers said:
These biased opinions need to end. We should as a community focus on educating people about these things so that they can make there own decisions.
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We are all experts here, and we all have something to learn. All opinions are biased, that's why their opinions. Lets be a little kinder to each other. A single person posting more often with in a thread is not likely to change minds or reinforce ideas as much as single posts on the same subject by many people across many threads. Hence the "bias". Likely this has nothing to do just with superior products, but with marketing also. So, I do see your point.

Back on topic, it would be a nice survey to have started. "Which have you found more stable, generic or name brand ram?" In searching google, it seems to be a mixed bag. Beyond the long side conversation here, what are others experiences?
 
Heb1228 said:
I and others around here recommend places were we know you will get good RAM that is not going to cause problems. Your "maybe-I-will/maybe-I-won't have problems" is not the kind of advice I like to give.

I know you say you've been in "computer hardware" for seven years... how long have you been Macs? Just outta curiosity.
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The places you recommend are "maybe-I-will/maybe-I-won't have problems" as well. You cannot guarantee anything. So you are giving the same advice. Even if I owned that RAM and posted in there and said it worked for me, someone would come and bash it saying it is cheap or macs are picky etc. I have seen it many times here.

I have owned a Mac for 1yr. Servicing Macs for 3 of my 7 years.
 
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