RawSupport Bundle and Aperture

[L Caputo]

Has anyone any information as to whether the RawCameraSupport.bundle can be hacked so that non supported cameras can be used in previous versions of Preview, Photos and more importantly Aperture in older OS's such as Sierra and El Capitan. For example in High Sierra if you open the RawCameraSupport.bundle and then open Resources there is a file called plugins.assets which can be opened in BBEdit and shows all the individual .cam files for cameras supported by High Sierra. Each file has at the bottom of its script the minimum raw camera version with a number under it.
Has any one any info or experience in this matter.
Look forward to your replies.

 

[maflynn]

Has anyone any information as to whether the RawCameraSupport.bundle can be hacked so that non supported cameras can be used

I would say no, I'm not sure I'd be willing to alter a system resource like that, but that's just me.

 

[L Caputo]

I would say no, I'm not sure I'd be willing to alter a system resource like that, but that's just me.

Since I am running a Mac Pro 3.1 with High Sierra and Sierra, if you can modify install files to get an OS working on unsupported machines then I thought it might be doable to massage the RawCameraSupport.bundle.
Also in order to get Night Shift to work I had to alter through Hex Edit the minimum machine standard for the CoreBrightness.framework. And I have altered the CoreTypes.bundle so my generic folders icon is no longer the standard blue. So if my machine can handle those mods, then I kinda think it could handle a mod to get new cameras to be accepted in Aperture. I was just hoping somebody might have had some experience of this.

 

[kenoh]

Since I am running a Mac Pro 3.1 with High Sierra and Sierra, if you can modify install files to get an OS working on unsupported machines then I thought it might be doable to massage the RawCameraSupport.bundle.
Also in order to get Night Shift to work I had to alter through Hex Edit the minimum machine standard for the CoreBrightness.framework. And I have altered the CoreTypes.bundle so my generic folders icon is no longer the standard blue. So if my machine can handle those mods, then I kinda think it could handle a mod to get new cameras to be accepted in Aperture. I was just hoping somebody might have had some experience of this.

Aperture is dead. Move on. There are other alternatives now that are credible.

 

[L Caputo]

Aperture is dead. Move on. There are other alternatives now that are credible.

If you have nothing of the remotest interest to say, just leave it out.

 

[kenoh]

If you have nothing of the remotest interest to say, just leave it out.

Excuse me? how rude!

This is of great interest. It is the same conversation we have on here repeatedly. Apple have ceased support. If you want reliable new camera support, then you need a new option. Aperture is dead. No more updates and pretty soon the deprecated library functions it needs to work will have been removed and it will just stop working. At the minute you are benefiting from updates to the Camera Raw engine (separate from Aperture). The day it stops working, what will you do with your library of images? or your next set of images you want to process. You need to look at a new tool and do it now while you have the luxury of time to select wisely.

As for your camera RAW challenge, then this article may be of help to you. It details that RAW support isnt actually in Aperture.

https://photoapps.expert/help/faqs/...ave-raw-support-in-aperture.html#.Wk5MRt9l8uU

Here are the download links to the Apple Digital Camera RAW updates

https://support.apple.com/downloads/Digital-Camera-RAW-Compatibility-Update


I dont know why I am even spending time trying to help you after that retort!

 

[nicholasg]

I am running High Sierra (10.13.2) and the latest version of Aperture 3.6. Aperture is unable to open RAW files from my 5D Mk 4, even though Preview and Photos can open them.

This implies to me that even if you can get system level support for a new camera in MacOS <10.13, I doubt Aperture will be able to open the RAW files.

 

[L Caputo]

Excuse me? how rude!

This is of great interest. It is the same conversation we have on here repeatedly. Apple have ceased support. If you want reliable new camera support, then you need a new option. Aperture is dead. No more updates and pretty soon the deprecated library functions it needs to work will have been removed and it will just stop working. At the minute you are benefiting from updates to the Camera Raw engine. The day it stops working, what will you do with your library of images? or your next set of images you want to process. You need to look at a new tool and do it now while you have the luxury of time to select wisely.

As for your camera RAW challenge, then this article may be of help to you. It details that RAW support isnt actually in Aperture.

https://photoapps.expert/help/faqs/...ave-raw-support-in-aperture.html#.Wk5MRt9l8uU

Here are the download links to the Apple Digital Camera RAW updates

https://support.apple.com/downloads/Digital-Camera-RAW-Compatibility-Update


I dont know why I am even spending time trying to help you after that retort!

Why are you answering? I am well aware of the issues surrounding Aperture and I have made alternative arrangements, the post is just an exercise in seeing if there is a way to 'trick' the system in to allowing the raw images from more modern cameras to open in Aperture, as I have already stated my unsupported mac is running High Sierra with modifications to frameworks to allow a little customisation.
As I said if you have got nothing of interest to say don't bother replying.
And it was you that started out rude.

there was no need for:

'Aperture is dead. Move on. There are other alternatives now that are credible.'

Hardly the kind of insight I was looking for, as it does not offer any information in answer to the original post.
And I also know that RAW support isn't in Aperture, the RAWCameraSupport.bundle is in System/Library/CoreServices.

OK

I don't expect or want a reply.

 

[kenoh]

Why are you answering? I am well aware of the issues surrounding Aperture and I have made alternative arrangements, the post is just an exercise in seeing if there is a way to 'trick' the system in to allowing the raw images from more modern cameras to open in Aperture, as I have already stated my unsupported mac is running High Sierra with modifications to frameworks to allow a little customisation.
As I said if you have got nothing of interest to say don't bother replying.
And it was you that started out rude.

there was no need for:

'Aperture is dead. Move on. There are other alternatives now that are credible.'

Hardly the kind of insight I was looking for, as it does not offer any information in answer to the original post.
And I also know that RAW support isn't in Aperture, the RAWCameraSupport.bundle is in System/Library/CoreServices.

OK

I don't expect or want a reply.

You were already told in the other thread back in October it wasnt an option by the people who spend time tricking the system.

I will admit my comment was efficient in wording for that I apologise but point remains. Aperture is dead, EOL. You need to move on to a new tool. Canon 5D Mark IV support is only from Sierra onwards. Likelihood is, it is not an update deployed in both 32 and 64 bit object code and so they have stopped the use of it in El Cap and earlier where running on 32-bit systems was seen as being more prevalent - likely the Camera Raw engine wasnt purely 64-bit in El Cap.

So no, I doubt you can do it. Peace brother...

 

[L Caputo]

You were already told in the other thread back in October it wasnt an option by the people who spend time tricking the system.

I will admit my comment was efficient in wording for that I apologise but point remains. Aperture is dead, EOL. You need to move on to a new tool. Canon 5D Mark IV support is only from Sierra onwards. Likelihood is, it is not an update deployed in both 32 and 64 bit object code and so they have stopped the use of it in El Cap and earlier where running on 32-bit systems was seen as being more prevalent - likely the Camera Raw engine wasnt purely 64-bit in El Cap.

So no, I doubt you can do it. Peace brother...

And yet you replied.

 

[maflynn]

And yet you replied.

Putting on my moderator hat.

All members have the right to respond in a thread and other members cannot dissuade anyone from posting. While the post was somewhat short, he was offering advice in using current software as opposed to trying to hack macOS.

 

[kenoh]

Putting on my moderator hat.

All members have the right to respond in a thread and other members cannot dissuade anyone from posting. While the post was somewhat short, he was offering advice in using current software as opposed to trying to hack macOS.

I apologised. Stressful day at work, typing between meetings. I put out the olive branch

 

[L Caputo]

Putting on my moderator hat.

All members have the right to respond in a thread and other members cannot dissuade anyone from posting. While the post was somewhat short, he was offering advice in using current software as opposed to trying to hack macOS.

As I have already pointed out I am already aware of other software alternatives and availability.
surely if I ask someone not to respond they should be courteous and not do so.

 

[Alexander.Of.Oz]

withdrawn, off topic

 

[robgendreau]

I'm not sure if your idea will work, but you'll probably just have to try it yourself. There could be many reasons why it wouldn't, and I kinda doubt there's much incentive for folks to work on it. Could be an issue with the innards of Aperture. A good workaround might be RAW Power if you're an Aperture fan.

But something I have done with some success is work the other way 'round; I've hacked the raw file so that raw conversion software would think it's a version it already recognizes. That involved just tweaking some exif info, and it was a new raw format I was confident wasn't much different so it could produce acceptable results. Dunno if that would help you, or if it's even possible to so spoof the OS raw converters.