Or big name YouTube reviewers' loaner units?Why is that being predatory? Who wants a bunch of refurbished inventory on hand? It's from people buying 2 or 3 Mac Studios expecting them to be perfect.
They cannot sell refurbished units as new. It's not like they're hoarding stock. There is a supply chain problem. It's affecting every company and industry in the world. It's not an Apple problem.To all those wondering, it is considered a predatory sales tactic to claim there is a shortage or limited supply of something then value stock based on that assumption since the consumer can not validate. Even though Apple has not said this themselves, and it may actually be true, the fact they’ve changed their refurbished pricing to fit this narrative can fall under that tactic.
I can Google to fit a narrative as well so here’s another predatory sales tactic.They cannot sell refurbished units as new. It's not like they're hoarding stock. There is a supply chain problem. It's affecting every company and industry in the world. It's not an Apple problem.
If Apple hadn't released the refurbished units, you would claim that they were forcing people to buy new.
The general definition of predatory sales tactics is:
None of those definitions apply.
- pushing someone to buy something/rushing (often blindly) - Apple is not pushing you to buy it
- manipulative specs, tactics - Apple is not manipulating anything
- making outrageous promises - Apple is not doing this
It's clear they had lots of returns. Most were people who came to their senses that they spent too much and returned it. So they cleaned them up and will resell for 10% off.How can Apple be selling Refurbished Mac Studio Models... those Macs just came out!
It's not worth my time to argue over this. Yes, you're right, it's predatory. The absolute worst predatory action I've ever seen. Apple is such a monster forcing people to buy things at retail or only at 10% off for a refurbished unit. How horrible they are! They should be delisted from NASDAQ for their behavior!I can Google to fit a narrative as well so here’s another predatory sales tactic.
“Scarcity: They build a sense of urgency by claiming a limited supply or limited time.”
This has been done by media outlets and Apple supply chain sources. Even Apple support has used this as an excuse for extended repair times. Once again, true or false, this scarcity mindset is being sold and Apple reducing their refurbished discounts because they know there is lack of new stock can be considered predatory.
As you stated it’s illegal to sell used stock as new but what if Apple sold their used stock with a 1% discount during a supply constraint/low stock when they normally sell it over 15% off retail when stock is healthy? Predatory or not it’s very convenient and if you’re cool with being taken advantage of then go for it.
Same goes for Tesla raising their MSRP on most cars by $8K recently.
It's clear they had lots of returns. Most were people who came to their senses that they spent too much and returned it. So they cleaned them up and will resell for 10% off.
What does that mean?Predatory?
Yeah when I pay 4K I expect something to be perfect.Why is that being predatory? Who wants a bunch of refurbished inventory on hand? It's from people buying 2 or 3 Mac Studios expecting them to be perfect.
What does that [predatory] mean?
And why are they doing this with MacStudios? Are they not good computers, did they have technical failures?
I can Google to fit a narrative as well so here’s another predatory sales tactic.
“Scarcity: They build a sense of urgency by claiming a limited supply or limited time.”
This has been done by media outlets and Apple supply chain sources. Even Apple support has used this as an excuse for extended repair times. Once again, true or false, this scarcity mindset is being sold and Apple reducing their refurbished discounts because they know there is lack of new stock can be considered predatory.
As you stated it’s illegal to sell used stock as new but what if Apple sold their used stock with a 1% discount during a supply constraint/low stock when they normally sell it over 15% off retail when stock is healthy? Predatory or not it’s very convenient and if you’re cool with being taken advantage of then go for it.
Same goes for Tesla raising their MSRP on most cars by $8K recently.
How can Apple be selling Refurbished Mac Studio Models... those Macs just came out!
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So I just looked at Mac Studio prices for the same model I think is available from the Refurbished shop and the price for the new one is $1799 too.
Claiming a limited supply? An excuse? Apple what, instructed China to close their own factories so that instead of selling more full price units to people, they can sell sometimes even lower spec refurb ones to some people, and at 10% off?I can Google to fit a narrative as well so here’s another predatory sales tactic.
“Scarcity: They build a sense of urgency by claiming a limited supply or limited time.”
This has been done by media outlets and Apple supply chain sources. Even Apple support has used this as an excuse for extended repair times. Once again, true or false, this scarcity mindset is being sold and Apple reducing their refurbished discounts because they know there is lack of new stock can be considered predatory.
As you stated it’s illegal to sell used stock as new but what if Apple sold their used stock with a 1% discount during a supply constraint/low stock when they normally sell it over 15% off retail when stock is healthy? Predatory or not it’s very convenient and if you’re cool with being taken advantage of then go for it.
Same goes for Tesla raising their MSRP on most cars by $8K recently.
Looking at the Apple Store online right now, new, refurb, and education base model Mac Studios all ship within 1-2 weeks. What are you saying? There are clearly a bunch in stock.The price for a new one is $1999 USD. THe price is $1799 with the education discount. If. You. Can. Find. One.
Nearly? They're the same as, or better than new ones.Apple's refurb units are nearly identical to new ones anyway.
Will they check to see if it "whines" though? That is the one thing holding me back from buying the current crop of refurbished Mac Studios. It's still very tempting, because I could get my new machine TOMORROW through the refurbished store vs waiting three weeks for my current order to arrive. Very tempting...Nearly? They're the same as, or better than new ones.
New ones roll off the production line, go into a box and get sold.
Refurbs are checked over by a real person, any required repairs are completed, they get put into a box and sold at 10% discount with the same full warranty as a new one.