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caccamolle

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at the Apple store:
2Mhz, 1G ram, 256Vram, 100G hd. Sounds like a great deal to me at $1,499.

Sure, not a CD2, but I looked at some performance comps between the two and felt this was obvious when compared to a MacBook for example.

Any comments ?
 

PDE

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I would not and invest in a new one, they had too many issues........

I totally agree. The worst issue of them all was the tremendous heat they generated. There were other issues too, but then again there are issues with the latest ones too....maybe a macbook instead?
 

phungy

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Dec 5, 2006
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So the heating issue is only for the MB/P with the CD. Seems like the MB/P with the C2D have been fine.
 

caccamolle

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thanks guys, unfortunately conflicting opinions, which is to be expected anyway.

I did hear (vaguely) about issues, and actually the heat mentioned above sounds familiar, so in the back of my mind I am a bit skeptical. I have no idea however whether some of those issues were "fixed" (and fixable) and I would expect that if that were the case a refurbished unit would come with such fixes.

The MacBook is really where I started from, however it was the size of the screen really that made me look at the MBP. This is not intended for heavy use at all, but hey, if you've got more power we all know we tend to use it.

Anyhow, when I looked at the prices of the new MBP it made no sense for me. But when I noticed this refurbushed unit which costs, in a way, less than the top of the line MB, it seemed a no brainer.

The only concern I guess really is the heat (and/or other issues of those first MBP's).

Now, note that I have just ordered it simply because I need it for a 2 week trip to europe and since I am leaving next Saturday I needed to put in the order today. BUT IF :

(a) enough people appear skeptical and
(b) when I get it I detect the slightest problem

I WILL RETURN it and simply go to the Apple store and get whatever.

I have never before ordered refurbished stuff (or used computers for that matter) just to avoid annoyances, and I have been buying Apple stuff forever, but this time I thought I'd give it a try. It has to be issuesless otherwise I'd rather pay new :)

So any more comments are more than welcome.

May be those of you who know can point me to the various known issues, so I can test it more carefully. As to the heat, what would be the best way to check that ? just leave it on for a while type of thing ?

thx again.
 

danny_w

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I and several others here have bought refurbs from Apple with very good results. However, the refurb that I bought was a Rev B iMac G5 (I didn't want the Rev A because of all of the issues with them), and it has been problem free from the start, and you couldn't tell it from new unless I told you. If the problems of the original MBP are fixable, I would expect all of the fixes to already be applied when you receive it; if not, it still has a full warranty the same as a new one.
 

tjcampbell

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I if not, it still has a full warranty the same as a new one.

No it does not! Refurb apple care is different. I found this out recently. If you have a problem with a refurb the return and process is much different. It was very long and frustrating for me. I now have a new MBP and it kicks ass and I know that I have "real" applecare, not the light version they give with the refurbs. Cheers, tom
 

danny_w

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No it does not! Refurb apple care is different. I found this out recently. If you have a problem with a refurb the return and process is much different. It was very long and frustrating for me. I now have a new MBP and it kicks ass and I know that I have "real" applecare, not the light version they give with the refurbs. Cheers, tom
Thanks for the info, I did not know that. Every time I have seen anybody talk about refurbs they have always talked about how the warranty is the same as a new model. This is the first I have heard of this, and seems to be a "hidden" fact that Apple doesn't want you to know. The warranty link on the refurbs page leads to the same warranty info as for new products (1 year limited warranty on hardware products).
 

joanna94

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I have a refurb macbook pro with similar specs as you mention above and with (so far) no problems - I'm very pleased with it and got a very good deal from Apple for it. I asked about applecare on the phone to the guy when buying it, and there was certainly no mention of there being any difference. I also mentioned that if there were real problems would they replace it, and they said yes they would. (Hope I won't get to that point though!)
 

caccamolle

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Feb 18, 2005
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thx dudes ! good feedback here.

I also believe that the return policy is identical for refurbished and new products. Not worried about that so much.

Anyhow, I will be getting it this monday. Lets see. It is, after all, an experiment. With a bit of luck it might work out ok.

But again, please, if anyone recalls specific issues to watch for please do let me know!
 

aaron.lee2006

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Feb 23, 2006
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I totally agree. The worst issue of them all was the tremendous heat they generated. There were other issues too, but then again there are issues with the latest ones too....maybe a macbook instead?

Ummmm I have a refurbished MacBook Pro and I have no issues :confused: So buying a new one will just cost more. Sure you get C2D but whenI got mine this was a great deal.
 

tjcampbell

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I also believe that the return policy is identical for refurbished and new products. Not worried about that so much.

Be warned, no it is not!

I know this because my MBP showed up with several major problems and so I had to ring apple right away.

Okay, if I had bought it new, apple would have sent me a new MBP and when it arrived I could send the faulty one back. No refunds etc... just a straight swap via courier. I know this because apple told me this!

They said, "sorry, you bought a refurb so your ONLY OPTION is to talk to our refurb returns division, then ship it back and when it logs into our system we will begin the refund process to your card. When the refund goes through you can order another computer." Yeah right!

This is what I went through. It took a few days for the courier to show up. Then a few more for it to reach apples system and then a week for the refund to show up on my card.

So I am through with the refurb store (for major products). I went to the apple store at Brent Cross and bought a new MBP. I talked to one of the geniuses and told him what I had gone through and he agreed that it's not fair, but he also said that's the way it is with refurbs.

I cannot stress how much I love my new MBP and I am sure some people get perfect machines, but buyer beware because if you have a serious problem wtih the computer you will have a serious headache to deal with Hope my ordeal helps others. Cheers, Tom
 
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